Squealing sound when clutch pressed 159 2.4 20v

Started by Nikola78, June 20, 2013, 10:09:52 PM

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colcol

Nikola, i would change the clutch and the slave cylinder as well, keep the old clutch for a rainy day, i have a rule at my place, gearbox out, new clutch assembly goes in, when i was young, i replaced a clutch plate and not the pressure plate, and 12 months later the pressure plate stuffed up, so i did the job twice, i think back then in the olden days, the clutches were quite expensive compared to now and no choice of brands and no internet, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

AndrewK

Quote from: AR753.0ltr on July 01, 2013, 08:14:02 AM

Hey Nikola78

Does EB Spares provide warranty for the part if it fails?
The labour to remove and re-fit the gearbox will, like you mentioned cost more than the actual part itself. You'd hope it doesn't fail within 12 months and not have a warranty for it. You'll be up for more money in labour and a new part again.
Not saying that it will fail, but you always have to be careful with purchasing big ticket items overseas as if they do fail, there is no warranty on the item.
As Colin mentioned, did you try any parts places locally? Was it a Dual Mass Flywheel, or just a single one like others put on to save some $$ even thought it's wrong and will cause problems in the future?

Hey Nikola,

I've sourced several parts for my 147 from EB Spares, including shocks, bumps stops and track rod ends (Alfa make you buy a whole new steering rack). Never had one single issue with any part that EB Spares supplied. Yes, your mechanic won't provide a warranty for it, but the risk with EB parts is quite small. Many, many Alfa owners here in Oz have used EB repeatedly. I will definitely use them again for the 147.
I have a 159 too, but it has the six speed auto :P (don't think there would be a need for a dual mass flywheel and torque converter).

Andrew

Nikola78

Those guys seems very professional. .answered all my questions in an hour by mail, made the order this afternoon and just received the confirmation that flywheel has bewn shipped, got tracking number with DHL and shipping costs just £45 which is not bad at all for 12 kilos.And it will be here for 3-6 days amazingly. They say is genuine Alfa part.If everything is ok like it seems ill deal with them again for sure.
Current
2017 Giulia Veloce
2002 156 2.5 Auto
2015 BMW 520

Past
2017 Giulietta Veloce
2004 156 2.5 Auto
2014 Giulietta Sportiva
2007 159 2.4D
2004 156 V6 Manual

Nikola78

I have a 159 too, but itshas the six speed auto  (don't think there would be a need for a dual mass flywheel and torque converter).
Ive tried couple of autos before I bought this one...believe me you dont know what you are missing on  ;D
Current
2017 Giulia Veloce
2002 156 2.5 Auto
2015 BMW 520

Past
2017 Giulietta Veloce
2004 156 2.5 Auto
2014 Giulietta Sportiva
2007 159 2.4D
2004 156 V6 Manual

colcol

Prefering a 6 speed manual to a slush box that does the shifting for you, Nikola you are a true Alfa driver, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

AndrewK

If EB says its an original Alfa part, it will be.
My 159 is the first auto I've ever owned. My wife and I prefer manuals and were in the market for a 159 JTDm manual, but we simply couldn't go past the auto as the car had been so well kept.

colcol

I must say as automatics go, the 159 is a ripper, a 6 speed Japanese Aisin as used by everyone and not much goes wrong, and no Dual Mass Flywheel to worry about, just a trusty torque convertor, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Nikola78

Going on monday to Maranelos for a service..still thinking whether i should trust Martini oil or buy Castrol or Selenia maybe  ???
Current
2017 Giulia Veloce
2002 156 2.5 Auto
2015 BMW 520

Past
2017 Giulietta Veloce
2004 156 2.5 Auto
2014 Giulietta Sportiva
2007 159 2.4D
2004 156 V6 Manual

colcol

Trust Martini oil 100%, they wouldn't use it if it was no good, there is a lot of hype about oil, the worst things about oil is not changing it and leaving it in for too long, each workshop has their own preference for oil brands, i use all different brands in my car, Martini, Castrol, Shell, Mobil, Valvoline , Penrite, Fuchs and BP, as long as they comply with the various Automotive standards for your car, it should be good, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Neil Choi

Quote from: Nikola78 on July 05, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Going on monday to Maranelos for a service..still thinking whether i should trust Martini oil or buy Castrol or Selenia maybe  ???

Stop thinking, Maranello uses Martini for a very obvious reason, how do you think they have developed their (good) reputation., they have used Martini for a long long time.

Plus Martini oils are pretty cool, it is BLUE.

colcol

The oil is blue, but you also get a Martini racing sticker on your back windscreen, some workshops use a particular brand of oil, because it suits the cars they service, some brands of oil don't manufacture a particular grade of oil to suit Alfa Romeo's, with Martini being an Italian brand, they have the Alfa Romeo range covered, if you go to a franchised dealer, they use the common brands cheap oils which may not suit your car, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Evan Bottcher

Quote from: colcol on July 05, 2013, 09:47:05 PM
...with Martini being an Italian brand...

I may have this wrong, I'm sure you'll let me know.  I think Martini Racing Products - suppliers of racing fuels and various lubricants - is an Australian company.  My (perhaps feeble) googling skills can find no trace of them anywhere else in the world, but I could be wrong.   My bet is that the association with the famous Martini Racing brand (liquor manufacturer who continue to sponsor rallying and racing) is doing a very good job.

Quite similar to the other night when I explained to an Alfa driver that the tuning company Autodelta UK is NOT in any a continuation of Autodelta SpA the Alfa factory racing department.  Autodelta UK has been benefiting from that association since the late 80s, and good on them! Chutzpah.

Side note: This website is full of awesome: http://www.martiniracing.com/ (hint: scroll down, and keep scrolling).

Back on topic - Bruno and Giancarlo have been using the Martini Racing Products oils in my cars for years, several different grades depending on the degree of race/modern/sh*tbox car I've had in there.  I've never seen any ill-effect, but then my sex drive hasn't increased nor has my hair started to grow back either.  I'm skeptical of the perceived difference between oils, as long as you're buying a good premium brand within the recommended specification.  Bottom line - I'm happy with the Martini oils.

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Nikola78

Ok ok guys..I wont bother with oils anymore 8) Just want my Alfa to get best possible treatment and ill go for the blue one then.:) Just an update on a dmf..its already in Melbourne in just 3 days, which is amasing.Total cost was $720 (bloody dollar going down these days-otherwise even cheaper)delivered on the door by DHL  ;)From now on everything I buy for my 159 will be from them.Top level communication(was informed by dhl on every step that my flywheel was on customs check up airport etc), quick delivery, genuine product, Eb spares are highly recommended by me to everyone on this forum.
Another thing I want to do on my Alfa is a full detailing of the body.Any recommendations qbout a good detailer that you dealed with and a approximate price anyone??
Keep revving,
Nikola
Current
2017 Giulia Veloce
2002 156 2.5 Auto
2015 BMW 520

Past
2017 Giulietta Veloce
2004 156 2.5 Auto
2014 Giulietta Sportiva
2007 159 2.4D
2004 156 V6 Manual

colcol

Eb Spares are great along with the Alfa Workshop in the UK, the Alfa Workshop actually service cars as well, and they have tips on their website for fitting of parts, i have ordered parts from Australia and from the UK on the same day and have got the parts from the UK before the local ones arrive, i have found that the minute the parts are paid for they are on their way to Australia, no sitting around waiting for a taxi truck run.
For detailing, you could try club member Martin Sifredi, who is organising a body shop restoration night next Friday at Extreme Body Repairs, call Martin on 0425-735-814, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Nikola78

Got the sticker :) diesel oil that they use is definitely NOT blue  >:( and Martini is an Aussie brand  ;)
Current
2017 Giulia Veloce
2002 156 2.5 Auto
2015 BMW 520

Past
2017 Giulietta Veloce
2004 156 2.5 Auto
2014 Giulietta Sportiva
2007 159 2.4D
2004 156 V6 Manual