105 sump swap with 116 sump.

[Storm_X]

Hi all I'm just wondering if I bought a 2.0 with a 105 sump and swap it with a 116 sump , do I need to change the oil pickup ?

[Rob Berson]

The pickup on the 116 oil pump is very different to that on a 105. It is possible to modify a 116 sump with baffles and gates to use a 105 pump. Might be easier to swap out the 105 pump for a 116 one.

Rob

[aggie57]

Don't forget to change the dipstick.

[Storm_X]

I'm thinking of buying one and the dip stick is on the exhaust side and has a flat sump. I thought on the 105s the dip stick was on the intake side ?

I can't remember but does the oil pump easily come out once the sump is off ?

[Davidm1600]

ahm, possibly a dumb question but why exactly would you wish to do that Storm_X, I am assuming there must be a perfectly good reason to do so ??

[Storm_X]

Apparently a fully reconditioned motor that has only done 50 laps of Mallala in a clubman car, but I'm more interested in the EFI setup that was on it.

[Davidm1600]

Right , that makes sense, but why the need to change sumps ?? 

[Storm_X]

Will a 105 flat sump even fit straight into my giulietta ?

[Davidm1600]

Well at least that now makes sense.  No I suspect a 105 sump may not fit in a giulietta.  At least now I understand the original question. 

[Storm_X]

Ill wait and see if anyone can help me out.

[Storm_X]

Also the engine was originally out of a alfetta , but a 105 sump had to be fitted so it could fit into the clubman.

[Evan Bottcher]

Don't forget to change the, dipstick.

Change the what? And don't be so rude to Stormy!

[Storm_X]

Sorry ?

[aggie57]

Don't forget to change the, dipstick.

Change the what? And don't be so rude to Stormy!

Me?  Not me Sir!!  I do protesth my innocence