4C Sets (Class) Lap Record @ Nurburgring

Started by Beatle, October 23, 2013, 09:33:55 AM

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Beatle

Paul B
QLD

Past:
'79 GTV - Loyal 1st love
'76 GT - Track entry
'89 75TS - Saved
'76 Alfetta - Sacrificed
'83 GTV6 - NT bullet
'67 Duetto - Fun
'66 Super - Endearing
'92 164 - Stunning
'85 90 - Odd
'04 GT 3.2 Rosso/Tan - Glorious
'02 156 V6 Auto Rosso/Tan - Useful daily

Paul Gulliver

Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

Victor Lee

Are BTG (Bridge To Gantry) times the same as those top record fast times promoted?
Current Alfas:  Alfa 159 3.2lt Q4; Alfetta GTV6; ES30 SZ (all V6s!);  2015 4C LE.
Past Alfas:      '02 156 2.0lt JTS; '84 Alfetta GTV6; '82 Alfetta GTV 2.0; '85 Alfa 33 1.5 GCL single carb

Beatle

Quote from: Paul Gulliver on October 23, 2013, 01:06:47 PM
Not bad , but only about 10secs faster than a 105

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tI-WKde8Jgo

Sure, but if one considers that car to actually be a 105, it has a considerably larger engine, and cost more than a 4C to produce..... ;)
Paul B
QLD

Past:
'79 GTV - Loyal 1st love
'76 GT - Track entry
'89 75TS - Saved
'76 Alfetta - Sacrificed
'83 GTV6 - NT bullet
'67 Duetto - Fun
'66 Super - Endearing
'92 164 - Stunning
'85 90 - Odd
'04 GT 3.2 Rosso/Tan - Glorious
'02 156 V6 Auto Rosso/Tan - Useful daily

Paul Gulliver

#4
Quoteconsiders that car to actually be a 105

Geez , it sure looked like a 40 y o 105 with about a 25 year  2 litre twin spark  non aspirated engine in it. Might of have a bit of other work done to it as well. 
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

AikenDrum105

Scott
'66 Giulia Super 105.28.720988 TS+MS3+ITB+COP
'65 Giulia Sprint GT 105.04.753710
'04 156 JTS Sportwagon

Earlier follies...
'66 Duetto 105.05.710057
'85 GTV6
'71 1750 GTV

Paul Gulliver

#6
A bit late to cheat and edit the post so why don't we go with normally / naturally aspirated engine.  etc etc etc

Not to take anything away from the 4C 's  record breaking time , but I think all it does is show how absolutely , incredibly unbelievable the Alfaholics 105 GTA's time was.

Well worth watching the clip. I would love to know what the Porsche GT3 driver was thinking as he kept looking in the rear vision mirror and" that bloody thing" was still there.     
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

AikenDrum105

Hahaha yes !      ..."Get it off me !  Get if off me ! "     
Scott
'66 Giulia Super 105.28.720988 TS+MS3+ITB+COP
'65 Giulia Sprint GT 105.04.753710
'04 156 JTS Sportwagon

Earlier follies...
'66 Duetto 105.05.710057
'85 GTV6
'71 1750 GTV

GTVeloce

Victor - Bridge to Gantry is about 500m shorter than a full lap so yes, times will be slightly different although that 500m is all straight so probably not by much.

poohbah

Out of interest, the 4C is the cover story (and gets rave reviews) in the latest Top Gear Australia mag. Also carries a separate yarn by Richard Hammond on how good it is, and how it will probably be the first Alfa he buys and owns, so he can finally be considered a true petrol-head.
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

poohbah

In the interests of full disclosure, I should add that in a separate interview, our last World Champion F1 driver Alan Jones, when asked if he'd ever owned an Alfa, chipped in with "I've never owned one, but I've had the misfortune to drive a few..." and then noted some interesting examples of quality control.

Bastard ... what would he know about cars anyway!
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ANG156

Thats probably why enzo ferrari never made a second offer for his services after he declined thw first time, he found out he dislike italian cars.

poohbah

Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

colcol

Wasn't Allan Jones a Queensland Alfa Romeo Dealer about the time he was driving the Group A Ingus Alfa Romeo GTV 6 Alfetta?, that would have been after he retired from Formula 1 and started spruiking SAAB's, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]