Alfa Ricciardi: How much force goes through the lower trailing arm mounts?

[tjb0274]

Have been reading with interest and the replies.

Just my opinion,,

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Sorry for the confusion - assumed people would realise from the pics and discussion that it's not purely a factory component. In fact that's what a lot of the discussion has been about 

I've no objection if the admins feel there's a more appropriate part of the forum (Evan?), but there is quite a bit of discussion of heavily modified 105s here - Colin's panhard rod setup, TS conversions, etc.

I put it here because it's where the 105 experts are, and while this is not a standard component (or a standard car), it is mechanically a 105, with 105 rear suspension geometry and forces, so opinions from the 105 cognoscenti are useful and informative.

(btw, thanks again Rob for the 4.1 LSD I bought from you last year - makes a massive difference in this car).

[giulia_veloce]

All good tjb0274  ( forgot your name )

Was a good discussion,,but because its not a factory original part problem,I did not think it was relevant in this section with many not knowing what they were looking at,and confusing them.
The good thing is that you few Riccardi owners can discuss your problems and the many thousands of 105 owners can discuss theirs.

I suppose you were not aware it was not a factory mount.

Hugh and the Monza boys will make it a fun car for you.

Have seen a few vids of the Riccardi being driven spiritedly around race tracks in Victoria.
Looks like a good fun car,power to weight wise.

Glad the diff I supplied works well.
Just found a few more I had hidden.

Those 105 LSD can take a beating
You tube = alfa romeo junior zagato motorkhana to see how much fun the diff is.

Chats soon

Robert

[Colin Byrne]

ut because its not a factory original part problem,I did not think it was relevant in this section

mmm, guess i better find somewhere else to post then

Rob, do you hang it with PSK from alfa BB much, think you too would really get along...

[cjheath]

Easy up Colin. I was about six messages into reading this thread before I knew the discussion wasn't about a stock Alfa 105.
That's pretty unacceptable, in my view.

The OP should have made it obvious that it was a Riccardi and there would have been no problem discussing it here.
Perhaps tjb0274  can go back to edit that post to avoid misleading future readers?

[tjb0274]

The OP should have made it obvious that it was a Riccardi and there would have been no problem discussing it here.
Perhaps tjb0274  can go back to edit that post to avoid misleading future readers?

Fair point. Updated 

[Evan Bottcher]

I edited the original post, so the fact that this is a Ricciardi is in the title also as well as Tim's post update.

I think that's enough, there's not really another part of the forum for discussion of modified cars to go into and I'd rather not create more boards.

Scary picture.  It's a good reminder to have a good inspection under your car on a regular basis, especially if used on the track. 

[Colin Byrne]

Easy up Colin.

Yea fair enough, was a bit aggressive, I apologise

just getting a little tired of being told what is and what is not a 105 that's all

[tjb0274]

I edited the original post, so the fact that this is a Ricciardi is in the title also as well as Tim's post update.

I think that's enough, there's not really another part of the forum for discussion of modified cars to go into and I'd rather not create more boards.

Scary picture.  It's a good reminder to have a good inspection under your car on a regular basis, especially if used on the track.

Thanks Evan!  Yeah, it's definitely good to have a close look at everything before a run. It's also a bit of a reset for me driving wise. I've been driving the car harder and taking it closer and closer to my personal limits as a driver recently, and I think this is a good reminder to leave a bit more in reserve, stay off the kerbs, etc. I've posted PBs at the last couple of sprints, but at Broadford was definitely a little ragged and harder on the car than I should be.

[cjheath]

... leave a bit more in reserve, stay off the kerbs, etc.

LOL - the only time I had significant subframe cracking in my 105 was after a kerb incident. It turns out that reversing out of a carpark in a quick U-turn can cause kerbs to appear that weren't there before... memories of when I was young and foolish (now I'm just foolish!).

[giulia_veloce]

ut because its not a factory original part problem,I did not think it was relevant in this section

mmm, guess i better find somewhere else to post then

Rob, do you hang it with PSK from alfa BB much, think you too would really get along...

Hi Colin..
There are many ways to answer your reply.
I will do it this way.

I have no problems with what you are doing with your modified Targa car.
I have no problems with anyone modifying any 105 or any car.
But I do have a problem with what was written about a faulty 105 part that was not original.
Be back soo= dinner on the table,,and I better think what I should write about your PSK remark

[giulia_veloce]

Back again,

Colin,,I think you are missing the point here.
And your PSK comment is way out of line.

Colin,,I read with interest what you are doing with your 105.
Great modifications you are doing to YOUR car.
Modifications that You like and suit You.

I have no problems with modified cars at all.
Those that know me,,and you obviously don't,,know how many cars I have modified over the years.

The original starting post said a problem with rear trailing arm mount failure.
For those of you out there that are wondering what all the fuss is,,,,,Go to the first pictures of this thread.
Yes,,a problem has occurred where the mount has cracked+ pulled away from the body.
The mount,,with 3 holes,,and bolted thru the middle hole,,is not an original 105 factory mounting.
So,,in my opinion,,and many others who know these cars,,there is NOT a 105 production road car problem,,The problem is a welded non original mount that was not adequate and caused a failure.

Have a look at it Colin.
What would you have done with this bracket.
Now it has failed,,it needs to be fixed.
But its not a 105 problem.

Now to the PSK bit.
Don't you ever classify me with another member that you might not agree with.
He has an opinion,and so do I
Many value my opinion,,cause of my background.
Many like me,and many might hate me,,but please don't put me in a PSK category.

Maybe you should find out who I am,,and how many cars I have modified + raced before you think I don't like modifications.
I modify cars all the time.

Colin,,keep up the great work with YOUR modifications and most importantly,,have funbuilding the car and raceing it.
I will wait to hear your response,and retract my association wIth PSK and his opinion responces

On a brighter note,,Get Smart is on TV.
99 never ages,and is still yummy,,IN MY OPINION.

Robert 

[Colin Byrne]

Full retraction of the comment, as I said in previous post I realised it was a bit harsh and out of line like you said I don't yourself so was not an appropriate comment to make.
from my point of view it was very clear what the original post was about and I wrongly assumed that others did as well

[giulia_veloce]

All good Colin.

Its 10pm,,so go out in the garage and continue working on the 105 project and send us some more pictures.
Will be waiting for your opinion on the steering rack mod.
Hope its all positives.
We might even get some interesting responces from PSK.
Most of us wait in anticipation for the next update episode of = Colins Targa Car

On a brighter note,,we are all here as friends and enthusiasts and for fun.
Sometimes topics can be entertaining and responces ridiculous,,but hey,thats how it is.
Lets all enjoy our passion ( Cars) together,and discuss things in an interesting manner.
We all learn from our mistakes,and learn from each other.

[Mick A]

Hey Tim!

I told you a can of worms would be opened! haha!

[giulia_veloce]

Divano Veloce

Post whatever you like
Makes good reading.
Standard,modified,race cars,,I like reading it.

But when a modified car or part fails,,it should not make other owners with standard cars, think they have a problem.

This thread became confusing to the new readers when the title got changed.