Lowering a 164

[V AR 164]

After some thought, I'll leave the wheels and suspension alone for now. I reckon getting some decent rubber on the stock wheels will be fine for now.

Also, John, I noticed on your black q you have the tail lights with the red lenses. Where do you get them from??? I have been searching everywhere for them. Apparently the original 164's have the white indicator and reverse lights and the red lines was an update?

Thanks, Andrew.

[alfafarm]

Hi Andrew   The black car was as I remember a 92 model and I guess the were later production there were a few subtle differences like footwell lights better bosch water proof connectors .I would think that the US which had 164s up to 94 95 at least and had the s model which is similar to a q would be easy to source these lights from as they are not lhd rhd sensitive a request on the alfadigest used to work for me or check with larry at APE  john

[VeeSix]

United States tail lights are not suitable for Australian 164s as they have no blinker sections/setup different, even the wiring connection to them is different, out of interest they have side marker lights as in the attached photo, red at rear and amber at front, just like the regular 75 V6 3.0 and Potenziata we received with the America kit, although on the Australian delivered versions they replaced the lights with blanking plates, the side lights must be a United States legislation thing  .

I have every type of 164 tail light in stock if anyone requires them  .

[VeeSix]

United States 164.

[VeeSix]

America kit side marker light, they even received indicators in the bumper in addition to the ones with the headlight  .

[VeeSix]

Blanking plate  .

[stustustu123]

Hi I too have been into 164s for a long time and have had 3 Qs...

That is a BEAUTIFUL pair you have in the garage Alfafarm! Have you owned a red one as well? I notice both yours have the eye-level brake light in the rear window as well as on the boot lid. My '92 car didn't have the light in the rear window, and the boot lid one always had blown bulbs in it - I never got around to putting LEDs in it.

Anyway, nice to see a few 164-related posts of late. Should add (to keep it on topic for OP) my current 164 has SPAX brand lowering springs from the UK which I quite like. Haven't noticed any adverse tire wear but I'm not sure exactly how much they lower it by.

[V AR 164]

Ok I have had a change of plan,

Instead of getting new wheels and lowering the car, I am considering just getting wheel spacers to push the wheels out about 10mm or so. Can this be done easily?

Thanks, Andrew.

[jazig.k]

Illegal in Australia. Will void insurance [If found to be a fault in the accident with some companies and some insurance companies will use any excuse to get out of paying up. Best presuming they will not cover you at all].

Can be done. If done, do it right with hub centric spacers and making sure you still have full thread engagement on the bolts/studs [Pretty sure 164 has bolts?].

If it is safe or not is debatable. Lots of butt-hurt arguments to be had about this even if you disregard the legal side of things, but there would be countless people world wide running them faultlessly. Doesn't mean you should break the Aussie rules though...

[V AR 164]

Wow I never knew that, thanks for the info.

I'm surprised places like Supercheap auto sell them.

Not into breaking the law so it's staying as it is.

Thanks, Andrew.

[VeeSix]

The 164 comes from the factory with wheel spacers, dependant on the wheel type it left the factory with, on some of the 164s I have had come thru I have found them missing, previous owner or mechanic not replacing them, adding another one or a thicker one with slightly longer wheel bolts if neccassary should really not be a problem, but I guess it depends how far you want to go

What would be the point of paying a insurance company a monthly fee to cover you if they are not going to cover you when something happens, might as well just throw your money in a bin, you have to remember insurance companies are not really there for you, they are there to make as much money/profit as they can with the hope of the most minimal returns/payouts to customers 

[ARQ164 Shane]

Like any car, the 164 needs to be slammed. Stance. 

yep low and slow that's how you cruise 

[V AR 164]

I love the look of this one.

Gold on black 👌

[jazig.k]

You know, if you browse Stanceworks you'll find they are actually the same car. I did find it once over there.