headlights on gtv6

Started by shane wescott, June 09, 2008, 06:09:32 PM

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Fast Eddie

Quote from: alfagtv152 on June 24, 2008, 09:03:37 PM
Hi There,I have probably made about ten sets of lights for SA members and myself so I will try to explain how.


You should go into business making these.  i'll buy a set as there's no way i have the patience or the skills to do this!
Now -
nuffin
Then -
76 Sud L 1.3
85 33 1.5
00 156 Selespeed
77 Alfetta GTV - Group S project - "yellow peril"
86 SudSprint 1.5 - clubsprint car
77 Alfetta GTV - Tarmac rally/Group S
03 156GTA 3.2 manual
80 Alfetta GTV
07 166 -3.0 Ti.
86 GTV6

shane wescott

Mate

Awesome info. Looks like a great solution.

thanks for all your help.

Catch ya

Shane
Current Cars:

No Alfa's :-(

Previous Cars:
1991 White 164
86 White GTV6 Zender Body Kit
90 Red 75 TS
98 Blue GTV 2.0
85 Red 33 1.5 TI
85 Red 33 1.7 Carby
83 Silver 33 1.5 GCL
70 Blue Berlina 1750
70 White Berlina 1750

70 White Berlina 1750 (my first)

Current Bikes:

2002 Yellow Ducati ST2 944

shane wescott

two q's after some investigation:

1. Where do you source the Motolite lights from, can't find them on the web, and

2. are there two diff part numbers for a reason (maybe one if left and one is right)

Thanks

Shane
Current Cars:

No Alfa's :-(

Previous Cars:
1991 White 164
86 White GTV6 Zender Body Kit
90 Red 75 TS
98 Blue GTV 2.0
85 Red 33 1.5 TI
85 Red 33 1.7 Carby
83 Silver 33 1.5 GCL
70 Blue Berlina 1750
70 White Berlina 1750

70 White Berlina 1750 (my first)

Current Bikes:

2002 Yellow Ducati ST2 944

Jekyll and Hyde

Quote2. are there two diff part numbers for a reason (maybe one if left and one is right)

I assume that one is low beam and one is high beam - low beam usually has a shield between the globe and lens, to cut down the brightness and bounce light back into the reflector, high beam doesn't.

alfagtv152

Hi Shane,
The part numbers denote that one is an H4(high low beam) light with parker lamp and the other is an H1(high beam only).The H4 takes the normal type high/low globe and the H1 takes the normal single globe that the alfa has.I reuse the standard wiring for the H4 with the lugs changed to 4mm female spade lugs pushed onto the lamp with ordinary spade lugs to connect the parker lamp or you can solder the parker wires to the lugs in the gtv6 plugs,depending on what equipment and skills you have. On the H1 I use the standard high beam wiring.I buy the lights from Car torque Products but your local Sprints/Auto Pro/Supercheap etc should be able to source them for you.You can also fit Hella lamps etc of the correct diameter but they wont press in or  allow you to refit the chrome trim if you have it,you will have to do a little more fitting work and glue them in with silicone or uerethane.
Cheers
Andrew
SEE YOUR BACKSIDE TRACKSIDE.White 156 TI JTS,Silly Speed.

shane wescott

No worries Mate. Thanks for that. I had in my head that I was only looking to do the low beam, but of course the diff part numbers are for low and high beam (der me ).

Thanks for all your helpful info and I also love the photos.

Catch ya

Shane
Current Cars:

No Alfa's :-(

Previous Cars:
1991 White 164
86 White GTV6 Zender Body Kit
90 Red 75 TS
98 Blue GTV 2.0
85 Red 33 1.5 TI
85 Red 33 1.7 Carby
83 Silver 33 1.5 GCL
70 Blue Berlina 1750
70 White Berlina 1750

70 White Berlina 1750 (my first)

Current Bikes:

2002 Yellow Ducati ST2 944

alfagtv152

Hi Shane,
No worries,I thought I should include some more tips on the how.
When I said 4mm lugs I should have said 4mm wire 8mm blade spade lugs,the normal spade is 6mm wide and the bigger one is 8mm wide.You can use either but on the H4 globes the lugs are 8mm and on the H1 they are also 8mm.I use 8mm lugs on the H4 so that if you have to change a globe it is just unplug and replug,I use 6mm lugs on the H1 so that I can reuse original wiring when it is in good order by just cutting down the 8mm lugs on the new light with good tin snips,you should be able to see it in the pics.You can also see the tabs on the new light which I cut in the middle and then bend into a U shape and twist off with a good pair of stout-sharp pointy nose pliers(by sharp I mean new) for good grip.Just be sure when you get the RG2502 (H4Lamps) that they have the parker lamps in them,sometimes I get them without which is fine for older alfetta GTV'S but not GTV6 or later GTV,S.I will attatch a picture of a couple of Hellas as well.
SEE YOUR BACKSIDE TRACKSIDE.White 156 TI JTS,Silly Speed.

alfagtv152

Hi Edward,
If only you lived closer!!!
Cheers
Andrew
SEE YOUR BACKSIDE TRACKSIDE.White 156 TI JTS,Silly Speed.

Al Campbell

Andrew,

Do you notice much difference between the quality (w.r.t. illumination) of the Motolite & Hella?

The Motolites would seem to be the better solution: good fit, re-use the chrome ring. S so is there any advantage going to Hella?

Good stuff, thanks

AL.

alfagtv58

Great thread!  This is what it is all about 8)
1967 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce - (WIP) Strada
1977 Alfetta GTV Group S - Corsa - For Sale (http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,9600.0.html)
2009 159 JTS Ti

Scott Farquharson

Yeah, I never thought i would find headlights so interesting....
Scott Farquharson
Group A Dulux Alfetta GTV6
Group S Alfetta GTV
Alfetta GT (GTAM?)

alfagtv152

Hi AL,
There is no doubt that the Hella is a better quality product but the difference in light output would be very difficult to see if all else is equal( voltages,globes,wiring etc) and the Hella is much harder to fit.The Motolites give excellent lighting on my own cars and as you said the beauty is that they will fit inside your original reflector allowing the chrome/stainless trim to be refitted.I don't think there is an advantage to using Hella's, some people may just prefer them.
Cheers
Andrew
SEE YOUR BACKSIDE TRACKSIDE.White 156 TI JTS,Silly Speed.

Fast Eddie

Quote from: alfagtv152 on July 01, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
Hi Edward,
If only you lived closer!!!
Cheers
Andrew
i'll pay, you build.  distance is no issue :)
Now -
nuffin
Then -
76 Sud L 1.3
85 33 1.5
00 156 Selespeed
77 Alfetta GTV - Group S project - "yellow peril"
86 SudSprint 1.5 - clubsprint car
77 Alfetta GTV - Tarmac rally/Group S
03 156GTA 3.2 manual
80 Alfetta GTV
07 166 -3.0 Ti.
86 GTV6

alfagtv58

#28
I know this is an old topic...however....I have finally decided to do something about my lights (after a bit of a bump at Historic Winton and also Andrew getting stuck into me about them at the last 6 hour  :P ).

After some searching I found you can get the specific Motolite lights here

http://www.4thecar.com.au/

Just pop the part number Andrew mentions into the search function and presto.  And at $12 each, pretty good value.
1967 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce - (WIP) Strada
1977 Alfetta GTV Group S - Corsa - For Sale (http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,9600.0.html)
2009 159 JTS Ti

alfagtv152

Good on YA Phil!.
Cheers
Andrew
SEE YOUR BACKSIDE TRACKSIDE.White 156 TI JTS,Silly Speed.