Sud on 'Wheeler Dealers'

Started by Evan Bottcher, September 01, 2015, 11:07:28 PM

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Evan Bottcher

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Craig_m67

'66 Duetto (lacework of doom)
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giulia_veloce


edgy

Sweet... that's my afternoons entertainment today! :)

Cheers
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aggie57

Excellent!  Thanks Evan. so much for work today!!
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

giulia_veloce

Self steering rear brakes was funny.

aggie57

Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

Andrew Bose


Great Link Evan,
now I really miss my 33 :'(

colcol

I would have checked around the windscreens and weatherseals for rust, as these hide rust and they hold water.
While the engine and gearbox was out, if it was my car i would have put a new clutch assembly in, but it was a quick sale for television.....
The twin carb Sud sold here sold in 2 colors, Silver and Red, limited edition, only 500 sold in Australia.
Two only Black Suds with twin carbs came to Australia, both had 105 horse power motors fitted, were illegal, as they didn't pass pollution laws....apparantly one ended up in Bendigo and the other at Nareen.
At the time of this show, there were only 50 Suds on full registration in England, not to say there are hundreds in barns and sheds.
If the cambelts hadn't been changed in 17 years, i would have trailered it to the mechanics.....after i purchased at the auction.
That would have to be the easiest Sud / 33 water pump change in the history of mankind, usually lots more swearing involved.
Speaking of swearing, would have been good to see Sud handbrake cable coming off and going back on during engine coming out and going back in.
He never checked for chassis cracks in the front rails above the driveshafts, i have never seen a Sud or 33 without cracks, they may exist, but i haven't seen them.
The suspension was described as being very complex?, on the front suspension, there are 6 rubber bushes and 4 sway bar arm rubbers, the back has a few more bushes, but it well designed, and quite easy to replace.
The rubber bushes are still available, although you need to do a bit of searching, i would never have put the plastic bushes in, as over the years i have seen on Suds and 33's the mounts fatigue, as the plastic bushes are less compliant than the rubber ones and transfer more load through the mounts and lead to the mounts pulling off the body, and unless you are racing it, stay with the originals, for a nice quite ride.
He said Alfa Romeo's of that era, will deposit bits of their motors all over the ground, this is rubbish, the Sud/33 motors and gearboxes are robust, the bodies will be well gone before the mechanicals.
The biggest problem with the twin carb Suds is the seat material it is black with red "TI" against the black, the material hasn't been available for 30 years, cannot believe someone can't get some black seat cloth and get a computer sewing machine to stich in a "TI" pattern.
So there you have it, Suds, because of their rarity are starting to go up in price and some of the good ones that get sold on ebay in Australia are going back to the UK.
If you have a Sud , Sprint or 33, bring it along to Spectacolo in late November at Wesley in ST. Kilda or come along on one of our popular Sunday runs, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Sportscar Nut

Hmmm Col - thought 250 TiQV's came to Aust.


colcol

Most likely 250, that makes them even rarer, liked the tappet depressing tool he had to change the tappets, anyone know where one can be purchased?, the tappet shims are the same as a Volkswagon Golf/Passat from the early to mid 70's.
After the mechanic welded up the rust around bottom of the floor, i would have sprayed some fish oil in the cavity, as it would of, burnt off any undercoat or paint that would have protected the metal.
When timing the belts i would have taken off the distributor cap to make sure the rotor was pointing towards the number 1 cylinder, then you know you are on the money and not 180 degrees out, all seems so much easier when the engine is out.
Lucky to have found an exhaust pipe with the twin pipes at the back, these are as rare as hens teeth, but they can be made up by an exhaust specialist.
If you have a Sud, look after it, as there are hardly any left, 10 years ago, they were being taken to Simms metal, but now they are becoming appreciated, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]