The New Alfa Romeo Giulia

[poohbah]

You're dead right. Conventional 6sp manual gearshift. Perfecto!

And surely they will have to price the QV below the 4C "halo" car, so hopefully that will mean lower spec RWD models will be reasonably priced*.

(*only 1 arm, no leg)

[alfamisa]

You're dead right. Conventional 6sp manual gearshift. Perfecto!

And surely they will have to price the QV below the 4C "halo" car, so hopefully that will mean lower spec RWD models will be reasonably priced*.

(*only 1 arm, no leg)

Not sure you are serious, but the Giulia QV out accelerates the "halo" 4C to 100kph (and beyond) with claimed 3.9sec. It competes directly with M3 (and other sauerkrauts) with technology and performance and those start at $156K + on roads.

I also hope, with no offence, your prediction of historic Alfa devaluation disappears too. If and it's a big if, they get their dealer network in order with knowledgeable, organised staff and the Giulia's mechanicals are bullet proof...it will be bad for used car buyers but increased confidence in new sales. And if Alfa is to avoid why it fell in a heap before even with RWD, manual stick shift, transaxle, glorious engines etc etc then that is what needs to happen...increased sales.

[poohbah]

There is no doubt the QV will be the performance star, but the 4C will be still Alfa's bedroom poster star for the next few years, so I would imagine the top spec version would have to command a price premium, or at least set the ceiling for all other vehicles.

As for Alfa's usual depreciation continuing on as it has in the past - that is about the only way I will ever be able to afford a Giulia that is less than 10 years old! (So I guess I'll be scouring Autotrader in about 2025...)

[Alfamania]

The current Maserati Ghibli with an Alfa badge...thats what it is 

[carlo rossi]

has to me better than a fiat with an alfa badge
but seriously it takes alot from maserati as
alfa has been taken out of fiats hands directly and been placed under the Maserati management .
Yes  Fiat owns it overall, but thats only in a financial way now, a bit like jag and tata
SO what we are going to get is cars more like the pre 75/ 90 era cars that is real alfas.
with engines ..well a little more unique and advanced
somewhere where the technology is better than a standard "Camry"and is competing at a different level
no longer chasing the Japanese or now the koreans but they chase them.
how it should be, maybe a little late considering the momentum that electric cars are getting

[alfamisa]

The current Maserati Ghibli with an Alfa badge...thats what it is 

Actually it is the next Maserati that will be an Alfa wearing a Maserati badge. The new Giulia shares none of it's technology or engine with current Ghibli (or other model). The all new Alfa V6 engine being 90 Deg and the current Maserati 60 Deg.

Here you will find if anything it has more technology from Ferrari and specifically 458 Speciale (that has some of it's parts on the new Ferrari 488 GTB).

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/alfa-romeo/seven-surprises-on-new-alfa-romeo-giulia-revealed-by-chief-engineer/

As for ownership/management everything Maserati does is determined by Sergio Marchionne (for that matter for all of FCA). In terms of vision, that was stated by Sergio in 2004, that collaboration will take place between Alfa and Maserati. As the Ferrari was spun off the replacement big money maker will be Maserati going forward. And Alfa will step up to take Maserati's current "status" position (not easy to compare but as stated a bit like it's former self).
http://www.quattroruote.it/news/industria/2015/06/23/marchionne_e_l_alfa_romeo_dieci_anni_di_storia_gli_usa_la_giulia_i_piani_industriali.html
PS It's in Italian so if you copy and paste into google translate you may understand but beware it comes out in pigeon English.

[Evan Bottcher]

Well it's definitely driving around: http://youtu.be/Ib_fXfaafBo

[pasey25]

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/alfa-romeo/seven-surprises-on-new-alfa-romeo-giulia-revealed-by-chief-engineer/

Great article which I hadn't ready before. Great to hear some of the more technical story.

[carlo rossi]

in relation to the name Giulia and why ,well evidently its comes from the fact that Giulietta means little giulia and now shes grown up its a bigger car.
I tried to put a pre order in they said they would take my details and would get back to me
I asked how much for the really good one, and he said" the GTA? I said I suppose and he replied somewhere between
125K and 200K !!!
a safe margin I said I'm out at 200! thats a Maserati price
we wait..

[aggie57]

Well it's definitely driving around: http://youtu.be/Ib_fXfaafBo

Thanks Evan. Nice to see - aren't those sills low!

[Paul Gulliver]

An announcement from Alfa Romeo head  "Sergio Pinocchio  "  that will surprise no one.

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/alfas-big-new-car-plan-has-been-delayed

[aggie57]

Yeah, agreed Paul. No surprises. Makes you wonder why he keeps on making such grand statements if the plans change as soon as the moon comes out.

In terms of the impact this sort of thing has, imagine you're tempted to spend $100k on a new Giulia. Let's say the choice is that or a 3-series. Then you look down the road a bit to when it's time to move out of the car. Alfa may or may not have a new model by then. Likely not. But BMW have, and not only that but their dealers have access to a program where your trade can be onsold at reasonable margin. And a good marketing program to back that up, so a good supply of ready customers.

This is why he needs a long term game. He needs this generation of cars, the next generation, a dealer network that can see how they can make money on the initial sale and on the next cycle, and are capable of providing good customer service in the meantime. If he can't do that forget it.  It's not worth it.