164Q Clutch Issue

[V AR 164]

Hey guys,

I went to go see a 164Q today. It has been sitting for 4 years and has not been started. My only real concern is that when I pushed down on the clutch pedal, it 'freed' itself and then with little resistance went to the floor. It retracts back to its normal position but has very little resistance, like only a return spring.

Does anyone know if this is a major problem ie. Clutch job? Or could the system simply need fluid added and bleeding?

Any help is appreciated,
Thanks, Andrew.

[stustustu123]

It sounds like the master cylinder seals have failed. Do you know if it is operational at all? I guess get someone to watch the slave to see if it is moving at all when you press the clutch pedal. I don't imagine changing the master would be that hard but it looks like a bit of an awkward spot. Still, they aren't that expensive (here's one on eBay) so I say just buy it and worry about the clutch issue once the car is in your driveway! 

[V AR 164]

Ummmmm. Alfa no.4 is on its way. This is the last one! I promise!
Needs to go to the mechanics for a timing belt and sort out the clutch then it arrives home. I'm so excited     

It is a 1992 Alfa 164Q, 5 speed manual, sunroof and leather seats.

Needs a major clean and polish, but is straight as anything and the paint is almost perfect (and original)

Here's a pic of my new beauty: (Verrry dirty and has white spots all over it)

Andrew.

[stustustu123]

Hahaha, that is AWESOME!!!! Congrats, it sounds really promising. Going to be so satisfying the first time you crank it over & it comes back to life. And great to hear a 164 that has been sitting for a long time will be saved too. Many people would have been tempted to part it out rather than get it back on the road, but I think that's a crime if the car is salvageable. Can't wait to hear more updates once you get around to it (& pics!). Good work! 

[V AR 164]

Haha thanks stu,

Yeah the guy was going to sell it or part it out. It is much too nice to be wrecked. I just can't wait to get her home for a clean. Hopefully within the next few days, so a lot of pictures will be posted.
She also has an ansa exhaust fitted and lowered on konis aswell, which are much more reliable than the electronic struts.

All in all a tidy car, I'm so thrilled to finally own one of these beasts that everyone has been raving about 

Thanks, Andrew.

[Joe Garra]

Welcome to the Q club!

[VeeSix]

Looks great Andrew, way too good to wreck, look forward to more detailed photos, where did you find this one?

How are the Supers going Stuart, any more work done?

[V AR 164]

Cheers David & Joe!
Yes I can't wait to upload some snaps of her when she is amongst my other 164's!

She hopefully will get delivered on Tuesday if all goes to plan.

Yes, Stuart how are your 164's going? Had enough of superglue yet? 

Also here's another picture of it:

Andrew.

[Neil Choi]

How's that Alfetta GT, does the fellow want to sell that?

[Domenic]

Hey Andrew,

Don't be fooled by the link that stustustu123 posted (no offence Stu) But that master cylinder advertised in the ebay link is for a Left Hand Drive 164, so the mounting hole/bolts are in different locations compared to the Right Hand Drive cars, so save yourself the money!


cheers
Dom

[V AR 164]

Hey Domenic,

Thanks for the heads up! If I need to get a replacement it would probably be from a local wrecker. I'm mainly focused on getting her running first.

Anyway, she is getting delivered tomorrow evening, I'm so hyped!

Neil, I'm not too sure if he is selling the Alfetta. I will ask him tomorrow.

Thanks, Andrew.

[stustustu123]

Hey Andrew,

Don't be fooled by the link that stustustu123 posted (no offence Stu) But that master cylinder advertised in the ebay link is for a Left Hand Drive 164, so the mounting hole/bolts are in different locations compared to the Right Hand Drive cars, so save yourself the money!


cheers
Dom

Ahh good pick up! I didn't actually think about that aspect. 

I note that Alfissimo sells a rebuild kit for RHD for $48USD. Not sure what the differences are between the seal kits for a LHD and RHD as I imagine they'd be similar internally. Who knows...

[V AR 164]

Well it arrived this afternoon. After just a wash she came up a treat. On the weekend I will give her a clay bar, polish and wax. 

Here are some snaps:

[V AR 164]

Some more 







Andrew.

[stustustu123]

Wow, it really does look very good in those pics! So glad to see it's gone to a loving home with some other 164s to keep it company, haha. Your neighbours must think you are even crazier than me, lol. Exciting times, should be a fun project.