Giulia Pricing

Started by gtvsix86, February 02, 2017, 02:16:43 PM

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poohbah

Quote5 years eh

The veloce is listed at about $71K, so after five years at usual Alfa depreciation it could be $20K or less.
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

carlo rossi

Yep the 2.0ltr with performance pack is the one to get
2 of these instead of the one v6
and its only 1.8 secs slower to 100 ( 5.7 vs3.9)
and does 240kmh
need we say more
Poobah and I are on the 4pot
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

poohbah

I have to say the Veloce is actually pretty good value when you consider that $70K is pretty close to the list price of my first 156, a 2001 series 1 6sp manual V6 2.5.
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

Balfa


As the day goes


105junior

Ray Gulson had their official Giulia launch on 30 Jan, I walked in the next day to have a look a the car but no cigar, it was only there for 24 hrs, I had a long chat to the sales manager, apparently they're still working on what cars will be allocated to dealers and driveway price for the QV is around $160K, apparently they invited M3 owners from the BMW club to the launch but none turned up😂😂 in the UK the QV price is $97k aud.
72 GT 1600 junior with 2L transplant
73 spider Veloce
04 GT 3.2

poohbah

That car throttle review is brilliant.

As I said before, I reckon the 2L Giulia Veloce is actually pretty good value against its predecessors:
Veloce:
Price $71,895
Engine 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo-petrol
Outputs 206kW/400Nm
Transmission Eight-speed automatic
Thirst 6.1L/100km

To compare, I went and checked the list price of my current Series1 156 V6 Q-auto which was $60,950. It's a petty good comparison, given it was the 2nd ranked car in the 156 lineup below the kickass high performance GTA ($89,950) which was available here in 2002.

Of course, my V6 only puts out 140kW, has a 4sp sport-shift auto, and does 0-60 in 8.5s, as well as gulping down about 10L/100km! (My original 6sp manual 156 was $1k cheaper when new, and did the sprint in 7.3s, but as you can't get a manual Veloce anyway, no point comparing it with my old manual.)

So here we are 17 years later, and the infinitely improved equivalent model in the Alfa lineup will only cost an extra $10k in nominal terms. But in real terms (adjusted for inflation) that makes the Veloce over $20k cheaper than my 156 in 2017 dollars ($93,260).

Interestingly,the $143k list price of the QV is about $15k more than the inflation adjusted "today's money" price of that 2002 156 GTA ($128K)
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

carlo rossi

 I love Alfas
i was going to name my children alfa and romeo
BUT Again how do they justify a ridiculous 160k thats about $60k above the U.S and $70k above the UK
perhaps a second hand ferrari,aston martin,porsche(god forbid) or a new maserati ghibli or a tesla
or even a new m3 or m4 (resale after 5 years?) would be a serious consideration
does Alfa not realise its position in the market (unknown)
its like selling a chinese Chery for $80K ( ok 2 cherries for $80K)
you can see the people lining up now
that being said I believe a Kia Stinger gt is coming out and a lofty $85,000 price tag
funny the day the australian car manufacturing shuts down all the prices go up
That wasnt the government plan thou. it was to go down

current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

poohbah

I could never justify paying +$100k for any new car, no matter how good it might be.

Especially when there are alternatives - after all you can still buy a 156 GTA for about $15k...
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

As the day goes

#24
I did the sums elsewhere. In that price there is a delivery fee of $10000 for Alfa to bring it to Aus. Then there is the luxury car tax that is another $20,000 on top. That is why the QV costs so much than the UK. Maybe it could be $10,000 less, but o. The end blame the government and our exchange rate

carlo rossi

What we are all suffering from is the global conspiracy by companies !
Yep making you pay not what its worth but they think they can get away with
thats why an apple phone thats $1100 in aus is $200 in India
its priced against the average income of that country
not what its worth!!
THis is what we need to stop just because we live in the lucky country and have decent
governments (your choice between Capt Beige or Shortman)
If i go thru the uk to rent a car for my european getaway I can get a new fiat 500 rentacar from rome for $22aus a day
the same car through an Aus site is $40aus a day  this goes for all things
SO thats why the alfa in italy is $80,000 aus driveaway

you cant or wont afford it?
rent it in italy itll pay for you holidays in savings
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

kaleuclint

#26
Quote from: poohbah on February 09, 2017, 04:44:41 PM
Quote5 years eh

The veloce is listed at about $71K, so after five years at usual Alfa depreciation it could be $20K or less.
After five years a good one would indeed sell for around $20K as per the precedent of the 159ti I'd reckon.

The 166 did of course set the standard of course -- worth only 14% of its UK Purchase price after three years.
2011 159ti 1750TBi

Rigi

I think the side show is really good ... an American doing a review of a European car talking about quirkiness performance style and that evil word quality .... imagine finding a handful of American consumer products that have those things ... mmm .... nope 😊😊😊
Current
2010 GT 3.2 100 year Anniversary
1977 Alfetta GTV - Grp s
1974 GTV105 Resto (wip)
1977 Alfetta GTV Normal Roadie on Historics

Past
1980 Alfetta sedan('prettyboy')
1986 Alfetta GTV6GP
1985 Alfetta GTV6
1984 Alfetta GTV
1980 Alfetta Sedan
1978 Alfetta Sed

kartone

try and find the handbrake in a 1979 Thunderbird!
82 GTV6 split-dash
80 Alfetta GTV

carlo rossi

isnt it the motor!!! ha ha

current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper