1974 GT Junior seats

[chopperpat]

Hello    I have an Australian delivered 1974 GT Junior.  I want to recover the seats and return/correct them to original.

Could someone assist with identification.

From what I can recognise.
The rear seat is the old style type and is not appropriate to this model year 1974
The fronts appear to be correct shape type seats but the covers appear to be redone in vinyl and velour and to an old style pattern. 
Was velour an option?

[105junior]

If your junior is a S3 then the seats are the correct ones except the velour inserts to the front seats which may have been a repair job, what is the paint colour? If it's a S4 then they'll be the same as a 2000 GTV

[chopperpat]

I agree about the insert repairs

Do series 3's have front seat head rests like that?

[105junior]

Yes they do

[aggie57]

Where any series 4 juniors sold in Australia?  I don't recall ever seeing one there.

[105junior]

There was a S4 junior at Shannon's wheels expo in Canberra back in March, the red one in the picture, I also remember a white one here in Canberra back in the 80's, belonging to Chris hedges' dad.

[aggie57]

But actually sold here new or privately imported?

[105junior]

I don't know but can find out about it

[Paul Newby]

Pretty sure that the red GT 1600 Junior that lives in Canberra was a originally private import from South Africa.

I don't believe that we received any S4 Juniors in Australia. The last Juniors would have arrived here in 1974 and badged as GT 1.6. The "Junior" badge was dropped for the Australian market - I presume that "Junior" had negative connotations, notwithstanding that it was used here for the 1300 models up to 71/72.

Regarding the OP, the interior is brown (or Cingiale in Italian) and you can buy the correct material from Classic Alfa, in the UK and probably from other European sites as well. Not cheap for vinyl, but it is the correct stuff. I think that it is still the earlier (66-72) style Junior seats that you need.

As for those front seat in the photo - gotta love the 'Nick Scali' treatment.... 

[aggie57]

I don't believe that we received any S4 Juniors in Australia. The last Juniors would have arrived here in 1974 and badged as GT 1.6. The "Junior" badge was dropped for the Australian market - I presume that "Junior" had negative connotations, notwithstanding that it was used here for the 1300 models up to 71/72.

That was exactly my understanding as well Paul.  The irony of course is that those S3 "Juniors" are often treated as a bit of the poor cousin to 1750's and the like, but if you look at their specifications and the history of 105 coupes they are a really good combination of early and late specs.  Sweet cars.

[Craig_m67]

That was exactly my understanding as well Paul.  The irony of course is that those S3 "Juniors" are often treated as a bit of the poor cousin to 1750's and the like, but if you look at their specifications and the history of 105 coupes they are a really good combination of early and late specs.  Sweet cars.

I agree, but then I've got one 🙂
Front seats look like mine (also poorly recovered in velour at some stage)

I prefer the single headlamps and simpler interior, reminds me more of the stepnose.
That said, the 1750 batwing seats are a (very heavy) thing of beauty.

[105junior]

The vinyl colour is called maremma wild boar named after Italian wild boars in Italy near Tuscany, my junior being olive green metallic had the same interior colour, the S3 juniors are or at least mine is a tipo 115 so same as 2000 GTV so dropping a 2000 engine is a straight swap,
I don't understand why they are so underrated, I'm very happy with mine and wouldn't swap it for anything else, as Luke C. said when he drove it this thing goes like a scalded cat!

[aggie57]

dropping a 2000 engine is a straight swap,

Other than the Juniors have the lower final drive (4.55 vs 4.1), no LSD and smaller front brakes than a 2000.  So more revs on the highway unless you change both those as well.  The 1.3 Juniors also had a lower 5th gear (.85 vs .79).

I do recall a 1750 Berlina I had back whenever which I fitted my 2000 GTV engine to for a while along the gearbox from a '69 1300 Junior.  It ran at a few revs on the highway but was a great tow car. 

[GTV-074]

105Junior.... are you saying the 2000 GTV in Aus was a type 115?

US certainly was 115. My 1300 Super is a 115 too (South African import).

I am pretty sure ours were 105.22 (can't open my bonnet to check right at the moment).

Cheers,

Paul.

[105junior]

Sorry I'm getting confused with the US 2.0 gtv, you're correct, our 2.0 GTV's are 105.22, also I think the difference between the 4.1 and 4.55 is 200-300 rpm in top gear, I'm running a 4.3 LSD in my junior with a very warm 2.0L.