156 wheel bolts

Started by 75guygtvgirl, July 10, 2017, 04:15:49 PM

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75guygtvgirl

Hi guys, I'm wanting to fit 2000 spider 16 inch alloys on my 156. Problem is that the offset is different therefore the original bolts aren't long enough. Will the bolts from a spider do the job or do I need to get longer aftermarket bolts?
Cheers

poohbah

One of my fellow Sandgropers, Ugame, has posted on this recently as he was doing the same thing, except in reverse - his posts are in the WA section.
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ugame

#2
Ah ha yes one of my threads that got out of hand.

I've linked you to the most relevant post here:
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=16879.msg97008#msg97008

That details the bolt sizes I was dealing with, and scroll down from there.

There is even a video showing the bolt lengths.

I wasn't exactly going the opposite of your issue.

I had after market 17" wheels that I was taking off, and replacing with original 16's on the GTV.

So in a way, I was doing exactly what you are doing, and the issue is the same. The bolts were not long enough.

Check for your situation, but as detailed in that thread, I ended up getting 37mm long bolts.

Also ensure that the center bore is the same, and if not, get an adapter ring to compensate. Do NOT just let the bolts do the work.

There's a thread on that too somewhere ;)

Good luck :)

EDIT: BTW just to point out, it is wheel design that impacts the bolt length requirement, not offset. Semantics I know :)  But it is possible to have 2 very different offsets use the same bolt length, if the recesses for the bolts in the wheel allow.
Likewise, it is possible for 2 wheels with the SAME offset, to require different length bolts depending on the design of the recesses for the bolts/nuts.

Offset is simply the difference between the exact centre of the wheel (side profile) and the contact face that connects to the hub of the car. Or words to that effect. :)
https://www.lesschwab.com/images/blog/wheel-offset.jpg
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

75guygtvgirl


dehne

I have done this to my 156, the wheel nuts from a old Sud are the right length. I got one of those and then went and ordered new ones from Autobarn
now
1x 85 mdl road 90
2013 Giulietta 1.4
2015 Launch Edition Giulietta
Past
Multiple Alfa 90's, Alfetta's and 147's

poohbah

Is that the excuse you gave your missus for why a Sud had appeared in the driveway? "But honey, I needed the wheel nuts..." ;D
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

75guygtvgirl

A set with 36mm thread coming from the uk for $65 delivered 👍🏻

ugame

Quote from: 75guygtvgirl on July 16, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
A set with 36mm thread coming from the uk for $65 delivered 👍🏻

I got mine from my local Auto1. They ordered them in but had them in stock within 3 days from memory. Wasn't expensive either.
*digs out old thread and does some maths*

Hmmmm ok I paid twice what you paid lol
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

75guygtvgirl

I found some local for almost $10 a bolt 😕

ugame

yeah mine were $6 a bolt. Still twice what you paid.
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.