Suppliers of external window trims for Alfetta GTV

Started by bonno, June 03, 2017, 08:04:30 AM

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carlo rossi

im in as well
perhaps Bonno you could start a new
parts supply company
Name
of course Alfa Mail
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

julianB

I wouldn't recommend sandblasting the aluminium trim- it can damage the trim by leaving a rippled indentation in the surface (partially due to heat from the sand blasting, partly due to
Impact).
I had good results with soda blasting and powder coating.

You'll definitely want some silicon spray to help guid the seals in.

The edges of the seals need to be cut at an angle that's either just over or under 45deg, and then glued with a specific loctite compound- think it's 406.

Hit me up if you need help
85 GTV6 "Juliet"
GTA conversion-
AHM ITB setup, Jim K manifolds & 10.3 cams, M84
17" Work Meister S1R
330mm Brembo front, vented rears
RS coilovers and bits
Recaro LX mesh headrest buckets

'68 step nose Junior "Romeo"
bare metal project

bonno

#17
Hi Guys
Just got back home from picking up my latest acquisition a 2005 AR 156 JTS 2.0l manual and now have read all the recent posts on the subject. My comments are as follows
JulianB :
My metal trims are stainless steel which are powder coated black. The powder coating is showing signs of paint flaking in a couple areas and that is the reason for recondition. I agree that sand blasting is quite severe and the better option is to soda blast. I will be discussing this aspect with the local Powder coaters when I decide to get them done.
Carlo/Paul/gtv6sv/ISM :
The weather strips listed on the Italian suppliers website are available ex stock for cost of 90Euros plus Delivery to AUS. The profile shown for the bottom sketch for code  10075310 should be the one that is fitted to my 1983 Alfetta GTV4. There is no need for me to approach local manufacturer NARM rubber, based on the availability O/S.
cheers
bonno 

GeeTV

Are these the correct rubber strips from Highwood Alfa?
8137 Main door window outer & inner 70cm
8138 Rear side window outer 116cm
http://www.highwoodalfa.com/627c5e7c-acf4-4fd7-8ed2-d10a1544c86b-9.html

bonno

Hi GeeTV
Looks like profile No3 on the highwoodalfa website would be suitable. There is a circular section in the profile that would hold and allow to slide along the S/S  trim. However there is no mention of the felt lining, which I prefer. The felt lining avoids scratching of the glass with the dust collected when raising and lowering versus the rubber surface. The weather strips are supplied in cut lengths, whilst the Italian supplier is in a roll and you cut to the desired length (matter of preference).
bonno

julianB

Try www.mrfiat.com
And also try
Www.okp.de

I had to put some TLC into getting my Mrfiat stuff to work, but it does so- you just have to be patient when you're cutting the strips to length.
I asked my nurse friend to get me a whole bunch of surgical blades for my hobby knife and these made the process much easier.
85 GTV6 "Juliet"
GTA conversion-
AHM ITB setup, Jim K manifolds & 10.3 cams, M84
17" Work Meister S1R
330mm Brembo front, vented rears
RS coilovers and bits
Recaro LX mesh headrest buckets

'68 step nose Junior "Romeo"
bare metal project

bonno

Thanks Julian
Had dealings recently with MrFiat as a supplier of Alfa Romeo parts when looking for leather seat covers (lists weather strip material to OEM specification), whilst OKP is another I will add to my list of favourites for Alfa Romeo spares (does not list weather strip on their website). It is quite interesting what this exercise has been in simply sourcing a particular part which at first appeared no longer available, but with a little help from forum members and persistence, has revealed not only availability but a multitude of suppliers. I suppose this is a fact of life, that when owning a car that is over 30 years old,  the need to do your research is imperative in maintaining them to the highest standard possible.
cheers
bonno 

tpalfa

I'm pretty sure Mr Fiat and the others get the weatherstrip from Cicognani. (It even looks like Highwood Alfa uses the same supplier but I had been under the impression they didn't).

The problem is the weatherstripping for the electric front windows - it needs flocking. You should confirm that the Cicognani stuff is flocked - their window channel is flocked so why not - but worth checking. The front stuff under the quarter window and the rear stuff don't really matter unless you like to open the rear side windows(!) and the front stuff wasn't flocked from the factory. The only problem with the front stuff is that a small amount is used on each car and Cicognani only sells long rolls of it so you will have plenty left over.


bonno

Hi tpalfa
I am not so sure that I can use the profile identified in the photo "Front" as there is no section that will enable it to slide and retained within the S/S trim. My understanding is that only  one  profile be used for the particular trim design and in my case it would be the weather strip identified as Rear. Agree need to confirm if it comes with flocking/felt and that is something that needs to be confirmed prior to placing order.
Cheers
bonno

tpalfa

I think you'll find that the "front" profile is the same as the weatherstrip in your "curved Sect profile.JPG" picture you posted earlier.

bonno

Hi tpalfa
I will need to confirm when ordering, but the profile identified in my earlier post "Rear" is the profile for the straight section with flocking/felt, whilst the curved section is exactly the same, without the flocking/felt. Surely, the designers at Alfa Romeo are not stupid enough to have 2 separate profiles on the same trim section. You will probably find that the piece without the flocking/felt is simply a production cost saving decision.
Cheers
bonno

tpalfa

As far as I am aware there are three different profiles used on GTV6s. The front door trim channel contains two different profiles, the simple one under the fixed quarter windows, the more complex one along the main windows. The rear trim channel contains a single profile for its entire length.

Here is a picture:-


tpalfa

I thought your original picture with the curved section showed the simple profile which runs under fixed quarter window but I may well be mistaken.


bonno

Hi tpalfa
Just sent off an e-mail to weather strip supplier in Italy to confirm.  An  extract of my e-mail is below and hopefully will get an answer shortly.
"Hi
I am from Sydney Australia and I need to confirm prior to placing order, whether the subject item will fit all glass section identified in photo attached identified window trims-1. The profile of the weather strip on straight section is shown on photo identified Straight section profile. This weather strip contains flocking on the inner surface, but the section on the front curved section (fixed quarter glass) of the same trim does not have flocking. Need to confirm whether the one profile can be used for both sections and from your website the profile that appears to match is the one identified on your webpage as bottom image  for product code 10075310.
Thanking You in Advance"
Regards
bonno

kartone

Cicognani in Italy is the way to go.
A few years back I removed and cleaned (caustic & wet bead blasting) ALL window trim & guides and proceeded to powder-coat them satin black.
Window wipers were sourced from Cicognani, window guides were in good shape; door seals to original specs source locally. 
82 GTV6 split-dash
80 Alfetta GTV