Project 164 - lets see how this goes

shane wescott · November 03, 2017, 04:53:53 PM

sounds good. hoping to get some time on it either this weekend or melbourne cup.

need to shift the car so buying some car rollers this weekend :-)

V AR 164 · January 09, 2018, 03:03:36 PM

Any progress so far? I need some motivation to do the rack in my automatic car. The 'small' power steering leak has turned into quite a big one and the rack needs to come out

Andrew.

shane wescott · February 10, 2018, 11:31:46 AM

So today and tomorrow ive sent the Wife to Walker Stalker. While she with her Zombie mates its 164 time.

So making a restart on steering rack today [emoji16]

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shane wescott · February 10, 2018, 09:05:11 PM

So 3 hours or so on the 164. PS pump is now off. 2 bolts and a ps pipe cover removed. I "think" thats all the mounting bolts off. Now to just get the steering box off the shaft and wiggle it out. I will be using the suggestion of lower the sub chassis. Im not spending 2 hours getting 2 mounting bolts back in [emoji21]

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Citroënbender · February 10, 2018, 09:08:31 PM

You should try losing the non-captive, captive nuts that secure a Renault Fuego steering rack. I'm sure a 164 is easier.

shane wescott · February 11, 2018, 08:23:09 AM

What is about Euro designers and steering racks- are they all frustrated maze builders [emoji21]

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Citroënbender · February 11, 2018, 08:31:28 AM

I know visually the 164 subframe is very close to the Citroën and Peugeot lookalikes, if it has the same ABS layout (left front corner subframe) take care not to strain any of the brake hardlines when lowering the subframe.

shane wescott · February 11, 2018, 01:19:43 PM

Success [emoji16] didnt end up dropping the subframe - but may do to simplify the re assembly [emoji16] only took a total of about 6 hours [emoji16]

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shane wescott · February 11, 2018, 02:05:58 PM

Ok so fuel pump now . Soes the big plastic ring thing just unscrew and it come out? Whats the two modules? Pictire i have in a manual is totally different[emoji21]

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shane wescott · February 11, 2018, 03:17:37 PM

Quote from: shane wescott on February 11, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
Ok so fuel pump now . Soes the big plastic ring thing just unscrew and it come out? Whats the two modules? Pictire i have in a manual is totally different[emoji21]

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So right is fuel gauge - now is free to go out and in after a big struggle. Do i cut the plastic fuel lines to get rhe pump out and replace them. Is replacing the lines a pain?

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V AR 164 · February 11, 2018, 04:33:12 PM

Yup, the plastic ring just unscrews. I just used a mallet and hit it anticlockwise to loosen it. Then it just unscrews.

The fuel pipes are held down by a little metal bracket with a 10mm (I think) nut. Unscrew it, remove the metal bracket and the pipes should come right off, no need to cut anything. Then the whole fuel pump assembly lifts out of the tank.

Just remember which side is which so you don't switch up the feed and return lines.

Cheers, Andrew.

shane wescott · February 11, 2018, 05:15:46 PM

Coolio.

On a roll now - found some new tie rod ends, will clean the fuel pump filter, replace the fuel filter, drain all the old shitty fuel out.

BTW WHO THE F DESIGNED THE OIL FILTER ON THESE THINGS.!!!!!!!

Its a piece of piss to do if you have the steering rack out and the PS pump off, but otherwise WTF. wil defo be changing the filter while I have all the crap out.

V AR 164 · February 11, 2018, 07:08:15 PM

Quote from: shane wescott on February 11, 2018, 05:15:46 PM
BTW WHO THE F DESIGNED THE OIL FILTER ON THESE THINGS.!!!!!!!

Its a piece of piss to do if you have the steering rack out and the PS pump off, but otherwise WTF. wil defo be changing the filter while I have all the crap out.

Hahaha, although at first I thought the same thing, it's actually pretty easy to do with everything installed. Takes me no more than a couple mins to change them when it's up on jack stands, an oil filter tool is essential though.

I use a Ryco oil filter from super cheap auto, part number Z89A. Which leads me to oil. I have been using Magnatec 10w-40 in all my 164's, but I believe something like a 15w-60 would be better suited as they are an older engine and would run better on a thicker oil. I wouldn't bother with fully synthetic, just a good mineral oil would be fine.

Andrew.

shane wescott · February 11, 2018, 07:32:33 PM

Awesome thanks for the tips[emoji16]

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bazzbazz · February 11, 2018, 09:54:52 PM

Quote from: V AR 164 on February 11, 2018, 04:33:12 PM
Yup, the plastic ring just unscrews. I just used a mallet and hit it anticlockwise to loosen it. Then it just unscrews.

Just be VERY careful when doing it this way, as we all know how brittle old plastic becomes, I have snapped a ring or two doing it this way & only because the age of the plastic. You can buy a tool for unscrewing the ring on eBay for about $20, its a lot cheaper than having the 1 in 50 rings that let go.

Just a thought.