3.0 Help Please

[poohbah]

Hopefully you've got a spare car to use

CB - you obviously aren't aware of Andrew's full history - he appears to own half the 164s in Victoria ...

[V AR 164]

CB - you obviously aren't aware of Andrew's full history - he appears to own half the 164s in Victoria ...

Hahaha, yes that's true 

Steve you are correct. Finally got the 'stuck' head off the block after many hours or persuasion and indeed the motor needs to be tilted forward to clear the top motor mount.

About to attempt that now.



And the metal rail is covered by a soft thick microfiber towel, so it won't damage the cylinder head or the block

Cheers, Andrew.

[V AR 164]

Done 

[Citroënbender]

Let the cleaning of removed parts, begin!

Are the Dayco belts directional? Years back many timing belts had direction arrows on them, they were always set so the writing went the same way as the arrows.

[V AR 164]

Yup, gonna roll the car outside, thoroughly cover up the engine and important bits and start cleaning.

Flipped the head over and it was a burnt exhaust valve indeed:



Not sure if it is directional, gonna replace it anyway while I'm at it.

Cheers, Andrew

[bonno]

Hi Andrew
The burnt valve looks quite nasty and it appears it has been in this condition for quite a while (possibly initial misfire symtom).  Due to budget restraints, it may be worth just replacing burnt valve, valve stem seals, decoat and relap the valves versus full recondition the heads on pricing. Speak with your local cylinder head/engine specialist before you commit.
cheers
bonno

[bteoh]

Hi Andrew,
Good work and you have inspired  me to do the same on mine (Broken timing belt).
Let us know your progress , and lots of pictures.
Cheers

[Mick A]

Nice work!

[Citroënbender]

Re the starter, can't get bits off Gold Lion or Woodauto?

The latter do a complete replacement but I would suspect there's a lot of overlap with other models of starter, just not documented properly.

[VeeSix]

Hello Andrew

I have really good used starter motors in stock, $99.00 plus $19.80 freight

Payment can be made via direct deposit or PayPal

david.tracey75@bigpond.com

Thankyou David VeeSix OO-V-OO 🍀

[Citroënbender]

Any progress on this one, or has life been getting in the way?

[V AR 164]

Hi all,

My bad, should have posted earlier but have been flat out with work lately and haven't really had much spare time.

Yes progress has been made since my last post. Got the heads back on Thursday and been slowly working on putting everything back together.



New gaskets arrived too and seem to be of very high quality so I don't see any issues further down the track.





Bought a torque wrench too and torqued up the head bolts to 90nm referenced in my workshop manual.



So far I have installed my new timing belt and successfully rotated the engine by hand around 10 times with no issues at all.



I managed to source a really good second hand starter motor locally which I cleaned up and installed a couple weeks ago.

Just been cleaning/replacing everything as I go along, like new injector connectors as mine were perished, as well as various sensors etc.

Hopefully I will have the car running within the next few days, I'll keep you all updated.

Cheers, Andrew.

[Citroënbender]

I'm surprised at the 90Nm torque.  Would have thought it were angular.

[bonno]

Hi Andrew
The torque figure of 90Nm/66Ftlb applied to your head bolts differs to Centreline torque chart for 164 series engines 75Ftlb/101Nm (refer to attachment). Additionally the angular torque gauge applies for some engines, but I would be utlizing strictly what is specified in the workshop manual. The use of angular gauge incorporates stretch of bolt under reaching an applicable torque value.
Regards
bonno

[Mick A]

Hi Andrew,

What you have done is perfectly fine.

You will not have any problems with the torque you've done them up to.

Just give them a check and re-torque after around 1000km.

Nice job mate.

Mick