Twin Carb’s

Started by lhodgo, February 25, 2018, 05:32:42 PM

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lhodgo

Hi,

I'm putting together bits for my restoration and have two sets of twin carbies. I have the Weber's in the images and a pair of Solex. Wondering if I should pay a specialist to re-build the Weber's or sell both sets and get new Weber's? What would the relative value of these be and do you think someone would be willing to buy them? Wondering if I can sell two sets to get one better set?

Sorry I'm bit of a rookie with this stuff.

Citroënbender

Wouldn't sell them just yet.

They've got patina and vintage up their sleeve, most defects are serviceable. You'd be surprised what a combination of ultrasonic cleaning and vapour blasting can do for old parts.

lhodgo

I do have a ultrasonic cleaner but it's too small for these.

Citroënbender

The worst things are usually rotary wire brushes, in fact probably the only brushes you might consider - if they're still sold - are the "Machinery Cleanery" brand ones made here. 

Vapour blasting is about, it's not so easy to find as dry blast though. 

General comment on restorations - it's a real art to balance consistency of appearance from one part to the next, from one end to the other.  You don't often see it; most restored cars have "feature parts" that are brighter or smoother than new, whether by design or happenstance. 

Paul Gulliver

Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

LukeC

People ask wild amounts for Webers on Fleabay... But I would put a realistic value on those at $250 - $300. Then the professional overhaul is another $600 -$700 or so. If the car is standard-ish, I recommend using the originals. Performance: new Spanish Webers are about $1100.

Below are a couple a sets of carbs I used a bit of spit and polish on... Dellortos before and after.
Luke Clayton

qvae.com.au

LukeC

Only kidding. The carbs in the first picture were history. I use fine glass bead in a cabinet. Of course, the carbs must be completely stripped and meticulously cleaned afterwards.

Luke Clayton

qvae.com.au

aggie57

Personally if I was in your shoes I'd first get the Weber's checked by someone like the firm Paul has referred you to.  I would consign the solex carbs to the nearest round filing cabinet.

Why?  Webers have changed over the years, yours are the correct DCOE32 model and appear period correct for a 105.  Even the ones fitted to Alfetta's were different to suit handle emissions requirements.  The new ones are much different again.
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

lhodgo

Thanks all. Question, I get the bead or vapour blasting but how do you bring back the brass bits?

lhodgo

These rebuild kits worth considering?

bonno

#10
Apart from an effective clean externally and internally of each carburettor, you will need as a minimum a rebuild kit for each. Additionally, there are several Youtube videos on servicing weber carburettors on the net and a search of this forum you will find one. Find attached link to the Weber carburettor site, for all your servicing needs.
https://www.weberperformance.com.au/index.php?cPath=5

lhodgo

That's great. I think this is something I can have a go at myself. Thanks for all your help guys.

Citroënbender

I believe it will help appreciably if you bone up on the Webers first, to understand the fuel/air circuits inside them. It will also help to understand the significance of any deterioration, damage or modifications spotted.

And, call me a cynic but I would secret mark (and photograph my marking) any carb handed over to a rebuilder or blaster.

shane1750

Hi
   Ditch the Solexs. Rebuild the Webers. There is a SpeedPro Series book HOW TO BUILD & POWER TUNE
WEBER & DELLORTO CARBURETTORS that is worth getting a hold of.

carlo rossi

they arent bad stick with webers
they say they have a 100 year life expectency if looked after
yours might need bearings
but better than injection
they only last as long as the updates
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper