Thank God I don't own a Murcielago

bazzbazz · February 26, 2018, 09:01:49 PM

Selespeed pump - Brand new - Alfa Romeo - $367.00

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ECHT-ORIGINAL-Alfa-Romeo-147-156-GT-Selespeed-Pump-51736315/173075242918?epid=1025218793&hash=item284c169fa6:g:9wkAAOSwmgJY74WP

The EXACT same pump - USED - From a Lamborghini Murcielago - $1214.00

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transmission-Selespeed-Electric-Pump-E-GEAR-Lamborghini-Murcielago-086398317/232649871256?epid=25014122876&hash=item362b034f98:g:IScAAOSw5nxacgGA

warsch · February 26, 2018, 09:26:55 PM

Wasn't there the case with Selespeed accumulator when Alfa Romeo wouldn't sell it separately from the whole actuator whereas Fiat was selling them quite cheap?

Citroënbender · February 26, 2018, 09:28:35 PM

Ambitious prices, but like the old saying has it "If you don't ask, you don't get!"

I wonder if they could be trusted to sell a crate of my tat on consignment?

Darryl · February 26, 2018, 09:37:25 PM

Yep.Nothing new here. Early Alfetta tail lights are now well known to "really" be Countach tail lights. The good news is good quality repros are available. The bad news is that they are priced for Lambos....

And lets not talk about parts for the Commodore Alloytech 3.6 / "Alfa" 3.2 159/Brera engine etc.....

V AR 164 · February 26, 2018, 10:51:51 PM

Funny you guys should mention this topic.

I have discovered that the electronic seat switches used in the early 164's are identical to the ones used in the Countach.

Also the indicator stalks and headlight stalks in the 164 are very similar (if not identical as well) to the ones used in the Diablo and even the Murcielago. Funny that a modern supercar uses switchgear from a 1980's mass produced sedan.

Finally to tie in links with GM, the third brake light mounted on the 164Q bootlid is actually a GM part off a C4 Corvette. It even has the GM markings moulded onto the underside. On the Corvette, it is used as the brake light mounted on the roof.

Curious to see if anyone else has any other findings?

Andrew

poohbah · February 27, 2018, 12:15:56 PM

Andrew, how the hell did you make that discovery? What aren't you telling us - secret Countach?

poohbah · February 27, 2018, 12:26:18 PM

I've started watching this English bloke in Spain's Youtube channel (he;s recently bought a 156 sportwagon to add to his odd collection).

Be thankful you don't own a 13yo F360 - his major service cost 6000 Euro...

V AR 164 · February 27, 2018, 02:35:55 PM

Quote from: poohbah on February 27, 2018, 12:15:56 PM
Andrew, how the hell did you make that discovery? What aren't you telling us - secret Countach?

This is the 'Alfa Romeo Owners Club Of Australia', not the 'Lamborghini Owners Club Of Australia'. So my Countach is registered on that forum and my Alfa is registered on this forum!!!!

I found it out whilst watching a video online of a Countach and recognised them.

6000 euro for a service is a bit steep don't you think?

Andrew.

poohbah · February 27, 2018, 03:29:15 PM

Hahaha. And yes, you are right- spending almost $10k for a service somewhat changes the affordability...

Having the money to purchase a ferrari, no matter how cheap, is not the same as having the money to run one!

Citroënbender · February 27, 2018, 05:29:38 PM

So, if you're capable of working on "ordinary" cars like Alfa or Peugeot or Mercedes, what's so different about a Ferrari or Lamborghini that it has to cost huge amounts more to undertake similar activities?

poohbah · February 27, 2018, 06:24:56 PM

I suspect the badge adds thousands to the price of every "OEM" replacement part while the use of non OEM parts mangles the resale price.

Citroënbender · February 27, 2018, 07:54:50 PM

I've always fancied owning an RR, either early Silver Shadow or a Silver Spirit/Spur. Certainly some wear items on them are expensive (and you're unlikely to snag a bargain on Fleabay) but most of the rest is standard DIY with a few specialised tools thrown in, same as you get with a Citroën Dee series. Surely a Ferrari or Lamborghini is the same?

But I'd never actually want to own a Lamborghini - and have no real interest in driving or riding in one. So it's all kind of fringe zone entertainment for me...

bazzbazz · February 27, 2018, 09:47:05 PM

Quote from: Citroënbender on February 27, 2018, 05:29:38 PM
So, if you're capable of working on "ordinary" cars like Alfa or Peugeot or Mercedes, what's so different about a Ferrari or Lamborghini that it has to cost huge amounts more to undertake similar activities?

Well for a start, it take 4 times as long to just get at anything on them. The entire underside of the car is encased in a laminar flow skirt which takes forever to get off, then you have to remove half of everything to just reach anything.

As for service parts, on Eurospares.co.uk a Murcielago oil filter is a mere $192.00

I'm definitely in the wrong business . . .

poohbah · February 27, 2018, 09:48:45 PM

Only Lambo I'd want is a Muira.

Not Going To Happen This Lifetime.

Citroënbender · February 27, 2018, 10:02:54 PM

Look on the bright side, Bazz - at least here (unless a private import) the undershield fixings won't be corroded to the point where they need destructive removal.

I presume the full undertray is part of the reason they burn so well when they have fuel leaks!

Edit to add... I found aftermarket UFI oil filters for these at USD40.