GTV Rarity

[gtvsix86]

I was reading the attachment Magazine and was shocked at how many Alfetta GTV's are still on the road in the UK....... Only 38! Not too many 75's and 164's either. Good to keep this in the back of your mind when thinking of the value of our cars. Sorry about the poor quality image I had to resize it to post it

[gtvsix86]

MODERN CLASSICS MAGAZINE

[Paul Newby]

Does the 38 refer to GTV6s or all Alfetta GTVs? I doubt that there would be more than a handful of steel bumper Alfetta GT or GTVs that survive in the UK. The salt that they put on the road there and the intrinsically low values of Alfetta GTVs over many years would have seen to that.

It is a very different story here in Australia where the survival rate is much higher, albeit a lot of Alfettas have either been turned into race cars or wrecked for parts because for many years they weren't worth very much.

[Alfetta77]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Makes the hassle of keeping to originality (or at least retaining / sourcing all the original parts) feel a bit more worthwhile!

[Garibaldi]

The values of these cars are starting to rise.

With some good 105 series coupes now getting close to six figures it is only a matter of time before the Alfetta GTVs, particularly the early chrome bumper models, prices start to increase rapidly.

So if you are lucky enough to have one of these hang onto it, it's a great investment. 

[Paul Gulliver]

This subject was covered a few years ago under the heading "Alfetta GT stocks are rising". That topic featured an  interesting tool          www.howmanyareleft.co.uk

This is where the magic number 38 came from . Quick check now reveals that the number is  now 35.

In answer to Paul Newby's question , the site doesn't distinguish between GT , GTV , GTV6. So who knows.

[Citroënbender]

I tend to use howmanyleft.co.uk but believe both include SORN titles so it's not an accurate reflection of how many of a particular make or model are actually "on the road".

[poohbah]

I wish we had a similar registry here in Australia. I'd love to know how many are left here. Knowing could potentially add thousands to the asking price if we could advertise our cars as "one of only XX left on the road".

I really am now becoming confident that I will one day have a car worth more than I have spent on it!

[philpot]

Hi gtvsix86,

Thnx for the heads up on these numbers, I just did the same for Suds and 33's and have added the links to the 900 series page.

How accurate do people think these figures are? Does the uk have a club permit scheme and is that linked to this data?

Oh,  their figures for Sud's:   90

                                   33's:   47

With only 17 16V's   

[GG105]

Gents, rarity, although its helpful, doesn't necessarily translate to value.

For capital appreciation, as with all assets, value only increases as does demand. Its hard for me to see Alfetta prices ever eclipsing 105s, mostly because of the more compromised driving experience. The crap build quality doesn't help either.

Regrettably, most of the value will be in mint, original GTV6s..The four cylinder cars are the better driving experience, but they are too slow and lack the charisma of the V6s.

[aggie57]

Gents, rarity, although its helpful, doesn't necessarily translate to value.

For capital appreciation, as with all assets, value only increases as does demand. Its hard for me to see Alfetta prices ever eclipsing 105s, mostly because of the more compromised driving experience. The crap build quality doesn't help either.

Regrettably, most of the value will be in mint, original GTV6s..The four cylinder cars are the better driving experience, but they are too slow and lack the charisma of the V6s.

Personally the early GT/GTV's have a purity of style and driving that is compromised in the later GTV and the GTV6.  Yes, a GTV6 is faster (although in standard form by surprisingly little in the real world) and yes the engine has a wonderful sound.  But having owned and driven both over several years and many km's if the choice now was a standard-as-produced-by-Alfa version then it would be an early GT or perhaps an early steel number GTV.  Wonderful, underrated cars.

I do agree though, the way 105 prices are at the moment it's hard to imagine 116 series coupes getting close in actual $ value.

[gtvsix86]

Value to me wasn't the price of sale that some are replying about but the Value of retaining the car especially if you have a well sorted one. Also those that are now embarking on big restorations (Myself included) like some have done with the 105's it helps soften the blow knowing that there aren't many left and the Value's could catch up with the spend in the long run. Anyways enjoy them if you have one because they are getting harder to find especially good ones.

[philpot]

Value to me wasn't the price of sale that some are replying about but the Value of retaining the car especially if you have a well sorted one. Also those that are now embarking on big restorations (Myself included) like some have done with the 105's it helps soften the blow knowing that there aren't many left and the Value's could catch up with the spend in the long run. Anyways enjoy them if you have one because they are getting harder to find especially good ones.

Well said.  My thoughts exactly 

[GeeTV]

Gents, rarity, although its helpful, doesn't necessarily translate to value.

For capital appreciation, as with all assets, value only increases as does demand. Its hard for me to see Alfetta prices ever eclipsing 105s, mostly because of the more compromised driving experience. The crap build quality doesn't help either.

Regrettably, most of the value will be in mint, original GTV6s..The four cylinder cars are the better driving experience, but they are too slow and lack the charisma of the V6s.

'Driving experience' can be subjective and I can't imagine 'build quality' being a major driving factor for Mr Average Joe making a vintage car purchase.
It's more likely a fond childhood memory/passion/experience coupled with the financial ability - All of which can often culminate with age.

The age of the 116 is probably still on the horizon?

[Citroënbender]

'Driving experience' can be subjective and I can't imagine 'build quality' being a major driving factor for Mr Average Joe making a vintage car purchase.
It's more likely a fond childhood memory/passion/experience coupled with the financial ability - All of which can often culminate with age.

So true! And always (to me) a bit sad when something noted as a "driver's car" becomes too valuable in the eyes of most investor-owners for taking on a proper drive.