Help Needed with Colour for my Gtv6

Started by Dna Dave, September 20, 2018, 06:26:30 PM

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Dna Dave

Guys,

Being restoring my South Africian 3.0L, its ready for paint and the panel shop has ask for the colour, its original that dark metalic grey, i have the sticker thats on the inside of the hatch but he wants more information or a code, any help would be great, attached is the car before stripping her down and a pic of the sticker.

Hes come up with Grigio Nube 759 or 763 or Grigio Nutro 768

Cheers

David
1980 Alfa gtv racecar, 2.0L twinspark turbo
2002 Alfa 156 GTA
2009 Alfa Mito VRA Racecar
2003 Mitsubishi Evo3 RS
2007 Mazerati MC Victory
1985 Gtv6 (GTA motor)
1983 Gtv6 (original) no sunroof

Past,

Not that many 😜

GG105

Dave, it might be safer and easier just to find some original paint, inside a door jamb or similar, have it analysed, then you can get it mixed.
1959 Giulietta Sprint
1969 GT 1300 Junior
1970 Giulia 1300 TI
1975 Ferrari 365 GT4
1990 Mazda MX5
2005 BMW 330Ci
2014 Porsche Turbo

bonno

Hi Dave
Find attached a previous thread which contains link to paint codes for all model Alfa Romeos.
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=16358.msg94090#msg94090

Dna Dave

Thanks guys,

I think its the Grigio Nube AR763, i will mix abit and check against the only bit of original paint i have, lucky we have sanded the bonnet as the whole car has been completely bead blasted

Thanks again

David
1980 Alfa gtv racecar, 2.0L twinspark turbo
2002 Alfa 156 GTA
2009 Alfa Mito VRA Racecar
2003 Mitsubishi Evo3 RS
2007 Mazerati MC Victory
1985 Gtv6 (GTA motor)
1983 Gtv6 (original) no sunroof

Past,

Not that many 😜

Craig_m67

Weren't the SA Alfa's all painted [in SA] from a completely different colour palatte than those made in Italy?  I'm sure I read this somewhere, there was a link to Datsun/Nissan period colours for some reason
'66 Duetto (lacework of doom)
'73 1600 GT Junior (ensconced)
'03 156 1.9JTD Sportwagon (daily driver)

Dna Dave

Quote from: Craig_m67 on September 20, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
Weren't the SA Alfa's all painted [in SA] from a completely different colour palatte than those made in Italy?  I'm sure I read this somewhere, there was a link to Datsun/Nissan period colours for some reason

Craig,

I cant say i have read that, i know they were mainly red and white with the exeption of 7 grey ones, i will have to dig deeper, thanks for the heads up
1980 Alfa gtv racecar, 2.0L twinspark turbo
2002 Alfa 156 GTA
2009 Alfa Mito VRA Racecar
2003 Mitsubishi Evo3 RS
2007 Mazerati MC Victory
1985 Gtv6 (GTA motor)
1983 Gtv6 (original) no sunroof

Past,

Not that many 😜

bonno

Dave
It would be a pretty safe bet that the colour you have identified and confirmed from the colour chart  is correct. Refer to the nameplate colour "as specified by Alfa Romeo".

Craig_m67

#7
If you want the same colour I'd have somebody mix it using a sample of original paint from the vehicle (door jamb, under dash, windscreen etc)

That said, and just for conversations sake ;)

Glasurit lists three seperate paint lines (lists) for; AlfaRomeo, AlfaRomeo SA and AlfaRomeo RSA (South Africa)

The colour (Duco) sticker mentions AECI .. a South African supplier of chemicals and paints
The sticker also spells the colour out in English, not Italian.  In my experience most every Italian Alfa paint code is named in Italian, ie you would have argento grigo metallico.

An email to AECI or AlfaRomeo RSA in South Africa might be easier, if that's where the car was assembled.

Again though, I'd just have the paint matched by spectrograph using your bodyshops favourite brand of paint, that way it will be identical. Chances are the tech/materials used originally are no longer available and the colour won't be able to be correctly mixed and reproduced from the code anyway.


Edit. Note post #28 & #101
https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/alfa-romeo-history/31146-south-african-built-alfas-2.html
'66 Duetto (lacework of doom)
'73 1600 GT Junior (ensconced)
'03 156 1.9JTD Sportwagon (daily driver)

bonno

Hi Dave
Find attached link to several photos of the colour Grigio Nube AR 763 on a GTV6. This will give you a clear indication if this is the colour your after when compared to the section of paint left on your vehicle (bearing in mind the gloss level for age). 
https://www.bloemendaalcs.nl/en/autos/alfa-romeo-gtv-6-2-5-3/
Regards
bonno

aggie57

Nice car!

Craig is 100% correct, South African built Alfa's had their own colours.  Everyone I've ever spoken to or everything I've read over the years essentially says throw away the Italian colour charts on those cars.  Perhaps they started with the same names but even then the paints were formulated, manufactured and applied on the other side of the world so you'll have some variations. 

Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

GG105

I agree with Craig and Aggie. My SA GTV6 still has its paint decal on the underside of the hatch, it is called Ice White. I'm not aware of this colour on the Arese built cars?
It Looks similar to Biancospino, although I haven't had the opportunity to park it next to my 105 coupe yet.
1959 Giulietta Sprint
1969 GT 1300 Junior
1970 Giulia 1300 TI
1975 Ferrari 365 GT4
1990 Mazda MX5
2005 BMW 330Ci
2014 Porsche Turbo