Best Car Batteries for the 159: Suggestions?

Started by Maltalfisti, April 06, 2020, 06:00:47 PM

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Maltalfisti

What car batteries do you folks run in your Alfa 159s?

Specifically the 2.2 JTS, if it makes any difference.

Is there a better quality out there, or are they much of a much-ness? I've never really thought much about it until now...
The only problem with the GTV6? They forgot to install the flux capacitor...

bazzbazz

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bonno

Further to Bazz Bazz recommendations, the Exide Extreme  XDIN77HMF is also an option as it comes with 42 months warranty (refer to the following link in Melbourne)
https://thebatterybase.com.au/product-category/car-batteries/alfa-romeo-car-batteries/159-all-models/09-05-11-11/

Domenic

Fiamm battery from Italian Automotive Spares

Colin Edwards

Present
2023 Tonale Veloce
2018 Abarth 124 Spider
1987 75 3.0

Past
2020 Giulietta Veloce
2015 Giulietta QV
2009 159 3.2 Ti Q4
2012 Giulietta TCT Veloce
2006 147 Ti 2 door Selespeed
1979 Alfasud Ti 1.5

kaleuclint

#5
Varta F18 Silver.  800CCA.  Made in Germany.  Batteries may have a three year effective lifespan these days; mine is nine years old.  You might pay more for a Varta, but factor in the time and hassle of a roadside assistance callout.

There's space at the front of the battery bracket allowing you to fit a bigger version than standard.  Do your research and get the correct height too, or the hold-down strap will flop around.

EDIT:  Battery Base has the F19:
https://thebatterybase.com.au/categories/car-batteries/volkswagen-car-batteries/passat-2-0-bluetdi-diesel-fwd-sedan-wagon/01-09-11-10/varta-battery-f19-silver-dynamic-585-400-080//


Do yourself another favour and fit a Ctek connector (for charging the battery) whilst you are it.  Admittedly I have never needed to use this on a Varta, but it's there.  If you want to go nuts fit an Antigravity lead as well -- this enables you to start the car from the pocket-sized remote battery if needed.
2011 159ti 1750TBi

pasey25

Quote from: kaleuclint on April 11, 2020, 02:18:11 PM
Varta F18 Silver.  800CCA.  Made in Germany.  Batteries may have a three year effective lifespan these days; mine is nine years old.  You might pay more for a Varta, but factor in the time and hassle of a roadside assistance callout.

Maybe I'm the exception to the rule but the varta F18 in my 159 failed within warranty and I had to have it replaced

Current:
1969 Lancia Fulvia 1.3s Coupe
1967 Lancia Fulvia Berlina GT
2017 Abarth 595 Competizione
1991 Alfa SZ #440
1967 Fiat 850
1966 Fiat 850
1969 Giulia Super
1989 Alfa 75 Twin Spark

Past:
1967 Lancia Fulvia Berlina GT
2005 147 GTA Monza Sele 59/100
2001 156 Monza Sele 2.0TS
2010 159 TI 2.4 SW

Italian Supermodel

 Two years ago was recommended to research and invest in AGM deep cycle batteries (Fiamm to be specific,  but there's quite a few others).
Instantly transformed a 2 ltr turbo hatch from sluggish uptake to a growling tiger. The six year old battery had slowly been diminishing performance that I didn't pick up on.
Yes they weigh around 40% more,  cost 30-40% more but will last you more years,  performing at a higher level longer. I will not look at anything else.



kaleuclint

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Quote from: pasey25 on April 27, 2020, 10:04:49 AM
Maybe I'm the exception to the rule but the varta F18 in my 159 failed within warranty and I had to have it replaced
Made in Germany.  But American owned... :(  Usually good with warranty claims though.  How's the replacement holding up?

Is this the Fiamm??
https://hi-tecbatteries.com.au/product/hb12-tr740din77lh/
The dimensions seem right but shouldn't it be DIN96?

EDIT:  The Varta should actually be the F19.  Both this and the Fiamm are DIN77.  No idea why people on alfaowner refer to DIN96.
2011 159ti 1750TBi

kaleuclint

2011 159ti 1750TBi

John Hanslow

Hi there,

One important question here is what it is for! I know the topic is "Re: Best Car Batteries for the 159: Suggestions?" however we have to discuss the correct battery for its purpose.

So, I was told by an Alfa Romeo Selespeed specialist a decade ago most selespeed failures were due to cheap/incorrect/rundown battery.  With a deteriorating aged battery, less power is available to run the selespeed system causing premature actuator wear and ultimate failure occurring over time.  Now 147/156 selespeed cars are few on the road. Some 159 era cars were available with selespeed.

This is may be an expensive item to repair so a quality battery is required and it must be kept in good condition.  With TCT and stop start technology, AGM batteries are mandatory and would not run one without it.  I note that these were not factory issue.

I think if I owned a 147GTA selespeed or a 159 era car with selespeed, I would fit a AGM battery at the appropriate time.  If not selespeed or stop start, then an AGM battery is not essential.

Cheers
Now:
2011 Giulietta QV

Previously:
1989 164 3.0  V6
2002 156 Twin Spark Sports Edition
2002 147 Twin Spark
2002 916 Spider Twin Spark
1990 Alfa 75 Potenziata

GTV6SA

I have used Optima batteries in my vehicles for years, cost about the similar to Century ones but some (red top)have lasted up to 10 years,currently using a yellow top ( deep cycle) one in my truck for over 5 years.I have found that if the vehicle is not used regularly to use a smart charger like Genius 1100 or 3500 which makes it last longer.I had a Century 4 yr. Warranty battery which cared it after just over 1 yr.   but was replaced under warranty.

bazzbazz

Quote from: John Hanslow on May 02, 2020, 08:28:21 AM
With TCT and stop start technology, AGM batteries are mandatory and would not run one without it.  I note that these were not factory issue.

All Alfas with "Stop/Start are factory fitted with AGM Batteries.
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kaleuclint

And that's why Fiamm top end comes in two sub-levels: AGM and AFB; one for stop/start and one for cars that can idle. 

Apart from price there's another trade off to be made.  The AGM is nearly 2kg heavier.

Have to admit I do fit AGMs to my bikes (Deka, Odyssey), and obviously they are not stop/start.

I am very interested in the Fiamm VR800 as an alternative to my default purchase of Vartas.
2011 159ti 1750TBi

bazzbazz

Quote from: kaleuclint on May 02, 2020, 01:13:22 PM
And that's why Fiamm top end comes in two sub-levels: AGM and AFB; one for stop/start and one for cars that can idle. 

Do I assume you mean EFB (Enhanced Flooded Battery)?

For those who are curious as to the difference between the two -

https://batteryworld.varta-automotive.com/en-be/efb-or-agm-which-battery-do-i-need
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