3l GTV6 PRC project

Started by redalfaracing, January 24, 2009, 07:42:04 PM

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116gtv

well, if we ditch it, the question is whether the shocks or the upper arm will bottom out first  :D. curious to see what our resident rally guru has to say..

redalfaracing

you are right, for rally 50m m is a minimum droop you should be looking for. He your torsion bars are too stiff you will never achieve it. I an still running standard gtv6 bars but think i will go one size thicker. I cut the whole bump stop bracket off, the 90 had it cut no rubber on it. On The 75 it had disappeared  completely , the shocker is happy to do the rebound stop and you fit a buns stop rubber to the shocker to the shocker shaft. Works good and you save 4 kg.
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

Anthony Miller

75 shocks come with bump stops, that's why you can't fit alfetta shocks to a 75 and also why there is no bump stop bracket rubber on 75 front suspension, just what I'm told by someone who should know
Now-  '99 156 2.5l V6 (rosso)
         '88 75 3.0l V6 (grigio)
Then- '81 Giulietta 2.0l transplant (ol whitey)
         '82 Giulietta 2.0l transplant (ol brownie)
         '82 Giulietta 2.0l TS transplant (ol red)

redalfaracing

anthony. Exactly my point. Essentially the 75 and 90 are the same floor pan / chassis as the gtv6 so there is no reason as to why bump stop on the shocker will not work. And if you aren't using the rubber may as well but the bracket off,
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

The repair is going ok but slow. Have a new radiator support panel made and welded in. Have a top panel from a donor 2l gtv bare metalled, but it's got a few issues and i'm going to try and find a better example.
There is a pic of the panel work and one of the front suspension setup to help those with droop issues ;)
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

Provisional results for the BP came out and they found a couple of things to ping us more points on. Something to do with running out of late time. Anyway, now 15th. Still reckon it was a fair effort given our inexperience in this type of event. you can get pdf results here http://hra.org.au/files/BP%20Rally%202010%20Prov%20Results.pdf

Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

116gtv

thx for posting the suspension pic, greg.

I can see where you cut the nose, so will allow abit of overlap when I chop the good one for you..

redalfaracing

Repairs are coming along slowly. Thanks to Martin i now have the new nose on the bella, it will look perfect as it flashes past in the dark :). Grille is almost ready to screw in. Had to repair some of the headlight adjusting screws. New nutserts and epoxy has done the job. Just need to run a tap through them all and then coat with neverseeze.

Still battling with the exhaust. would love to lose the centre muffler, so i welded some tubing where it used to be. Think it is a bit barky even for a rally car. The service park repair is below.

Just have to replace the lost left hand rear mud flap that went missing last event and it will be ready for another fang.

Missed the close of entries for Bega rally ( event this Sunday) so we have entered the Nissan Nightmoves ( June 26th ) at Heathcote. Driven 2 of them before. Came 4th outright in 2004 and i think 7th or so in 2005 in the 2 litre Alfetta sedan. Lets see how the GTV6 likes winding through the stumps. I somehow think the 2 litre might be the easier of the 2 to drive around there. I'll give it my best shot.
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

GTV6 now back together. Had to rush to finish this morning as a guy from the Berwick Journal wanted to come take a photo for an article the club (PAC) is doing next week. Hopefully he uses a decent shot. When the article hits i'll post a link.
Took it for a tune today, actually doesn't sound too bad out of the shed, just has a bit of an annoying resonance at about 2500 revs. I will look into fitting some resonators of sorts.
Fitted the bonnet of my other GTV6 ( luckily the same colour) Still trying to locate another bonnet for this girl.

Went to the HRA club meeting last night. Got a trophy for the Trailblazer and we got medallions for the BP Ultimate Rally. There is a BP movie comming out. Lots of Datsuns, Escorts and Peugots But there is an Alfa and a Fiat to make it a little bit more enjoyable. Apparently on sale later this week.
The Trailblazer trophy is hand made by a club member out of a bit of windfall Ironbark from the area ( Heathcote) The BP medallion is reminiscent of all the BP medallions. It will take pride of place on the trophy cabinet. Both way more handsome than a plasic car on a bit of fake wood!
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

Hey, i have to tell you a story from the BP  :)

Division 3 and we are just recovering from being stuck behind the planted XU1
Trying to find our way to the finish control at Bronzewing ( yes it is a place, on the Sunraysia Hwy)
Cruising along a quite good gravel road doing about 100 clicks, and we decide to pull over to have a better look at the map. About 30 seconds later a Nissan Patrol pulls up some 100 metres behind us, and a guy gets out and strolls up to my window which i have wound down by this stage. Obviously a farmer and obviously upset, he goes " whats with your driving?" Having being driving very sedately (because if you are lost, no point going too far in the wrong direction) all i could think of was to say, "What do you mean?" He replied " You are not from around here, are you?"   "No" i said, and he said "well don't F###en come back!!!"
Really i was a bit taken aback by his tyrade and didn't think anything i would be likely to say would enhance our relationship, so i wound up the window and drove off.
We drive on a bit and decide we are indeed heading in the wrong direction. U turn and back we goe turning left at the first road. About 2 K's down and there is our newest friend sitting on the side of the road with another guy in his Patrol. Still not sure where we are we are only doing 80 clicks as we go past him, but that doesn't stop him doing rude gestures and shouting at us. I commented to Dale, " this guy is not in a happy place" Anyway, about 5 K's down the road we finally find the finish control ( from the wrong direction) Stop, get my card marked, and who do you think pulls up behind us?
I quickly explain the conversation we have had to the control official and take off over the Hwy to where Jamey is waiting with fuel. Could hear this guy from 800metres away. He rang the CoC and the St Arnoud police. I have been expecting to lose the car under the hoon legislation, but i think things have been smoothed over by now. I think maybe he was cut off by another competitor, possibly by a red 240Z ( there were 2 in the event) you gotta admit they would look similar in the dust.

Earlier in the day we were doing 120 clicks along a gravel road near Walpeup and a farmer passed us in his triton ute full of fencing gear, he hung the back out round the next corner and we didn't see him again. Bet he went home and bragged to his wife and kids about showing a rally car the way home!!!
I guess there is farmers and then there is farmers.

Hope you enjoyed the story
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

This pic appears in the Berwick Journal out today,



The full article is here http://www.berwickjournal.com.au/news/local/news/general/lots-of-vroom-for-fans/1858823.aspx

Not the best picture taken on the day, but what would they know? They are only journalists.
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

Yes Paul, all my kids did motorkhanas, khanacross and autocross and i would call them very safe drivers. Learning car control without having to worry about what other vehicles are doing around you is a big plus in my book. Also learning the limits of what a car can do, means that you will never exceed those limits on the road, unlike the num-nums that wipe themselves out with monotonous regularity. We usually get 12 to 20 new faces at our come and try days. Most join the club and come back to do a few events, we always get the parents in the cars too, they are amazed just how little they know about car control!Some like me and my kids hang around for years.....
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

redalfaracing

Nissan Nightmoves furthers are out, Car 12 of 50. Start time 18:37

Car 12 is not a bad spot on the road to be. Get the big rocks swept off. And a few wheel marks so you can guage the severity of the corners.

Not a bad format. Start, service and finish all at the Rushworth rec reserve. No service crew required, Alfas only ever need fuel , windscreen cleaned and coffee and sandwiches for the crew.

Better get my act together and get the GTV6 rally ready!
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project

dehne

when is this i might come and watch part of it as its around the corner
now
1x 85 mdl road 90
2013 Giulietta 1.4
2015 Launch Edition Giulietta
Past
Multiple Alfa 90's, Alfetta's and 147's

redalfaracing

Sorry Dehne should have put that in. Next Saturday night. Be great to see you there. There will be a speccie point or 2. Or, if you want your own speccie point, volunteer to do a road closure. They are still looking to fill a few more positions. Just a thought.
Greg Wyatt

'79 Alfetta PRC
'83 GTV6 3.0L 24v CRC Project
'83 GTV6 restoration project