air conditioner for 105

[Dan H]

Hi

I'm currently in the process of installing a twin spark out of a 75 into a 64 Sprint GT and was wondering if anyone had seen a conversion of a twin spark into a 105 coupe that retained the 75's Air Con equipment? Does it fit or is it mission impossible?

Also, does anyone know if the Air Con in a V6 75 is the same as that fitted to the twin spark?

thanks in advance
Dan

[Ash Gordon]

leave the air con unit out and wind the window down ..

[Evan Bottcher]

If you open both windows you've got a split system!

[Dan H]

What do you call it then if the front and rear windscreens are also left out? Climate control?

[Davidm1600]

Nah mate, a near convertible (ie. spider !! )

[pep105]

Most 105s have Dual Zone climate control as standard - great big rust F#%#$% holes in the doors and floors

Its dual zone coz usually one side has bigger rust holes than the other allowing different temperatures for driver and passenger..........

 

[lombardi]

wind the windows down and enjoy those beautiful fume smells that vacuum and suck in from,well everywhere.ciao

[Brett]

Ahhhh jocularity! but not particularly helpful   

[1750GTV]

I'm currently in the process of installing a twin spark out of a 75 into a 64 Sprint GT and was wondering if anyone had seen a conversion of a twin spark into a 105 coupe that retained the 75's Air Con equipment? Does it fit or is it mission impossible?

Hi Dan.
I guess from the above responses, this conversion hasn't been attempted by many, though I can certainly empathise with their comments and add that what's said about Alfas also applies to any old European car.
You could try asking the question on the www.alfabb.com bulletin board. This is another larger information site mainly populated by our friends from the mighty US of A, but helpful nevertheless. Or failing that, try the UK based bulletin board at www.alfaowner.com
Let us know what transpires.
If it can't be done, as suggested above, you can always wind down the window and adjust the air flow with the loud pedal
Chris

[Ash Gordon]

I take it you want the aircon as it's a daily driver , is it just the comfort factor you are after ?

Perhaps there's a smaller after market unit that you could fit, try an Auto Air con specialist.

Otherwise it's a big lump of weight to be added to the car.

[pep105]

Hey Dan,

Sorry I guess we havent been that helpful but it was a fun post ! 

Seriously though in terms of air con theres 2 litre 105s fitted
with a smiths unit under the dash, in fact a lot of 70s cars had this type of unit fitted.
Dont think its mission impossible (well maybe)  - but if you can put a V6 or a mustang V8 in a 105
you can do anything
With a Twinspark engine in 105 running injection ah la 75 its tighter than a nuns nasty in the engine bay i.e theres not much room in there, so maybe you would need to relocate the battery in the boot, at least thats what alfa did with factory fitted air con in Alfetta GTVs , whereas non air con equipped cars had the battery in the bay. As the others have said search the Alfa BB there must be something you could do and you might find the answer to 75 air con question as well

Are you still using the 2 litre GTV as a daily driver?
Pep

[1750GTV]

I've seen photos of 105s fitted with aftermarket a/c, though with standard motors. The compressor unit fits in the engine bay quite well if you shift the battery to the boot. If the twin spark engine fits in the 105 bay and isn't significantly bigger than the standard twin cam engine, I can't see why an a/c compressor wouldn't fit as well. At least with the extra power you get from a twin spark, you'll still be able to drive uphill and have the a/c on simultaneously.
The main problem seems to be fitting the blower unit in the cabin and making it look as though it 'belongs'.
I'll see if I can find some pictures.
If you can't make it all work, you may have to move to Tasmania where the weather is a bit cooler
Chris

[pep105]

Yeah the smiths blower unit in the cabin is a bit unsightly may be an issue.
I did see one pictured recently think it was on the BB. Not much physical size difference
between the engines only the additional plumbing for the injection, I think the compressor on the 75 runs
on the RHS under the intake down low which is opposite to the alfetta, LHS up high at head height or where the battery used to be. So come to think of it dont know if the battery in the boot will help. Unless you run the alfetta compressor with a modified bracket - anyway enough speculating

Tassie sounds good just ask Dave

Pep

[Dan H]

Thanks for the posts folks - I'll have a bit of a look around the US and UK Alfa forums and see what I can find.

I have seen those under dash units before - the old Peugeot 504s also had something similar.  It might not look too bad in the sprint GT as it has the much simpler dash without any real centre console to speak of.  If anyone knows of any of these floating around, let me know.

I'm still using the GTV 2000 as my daily driver, but the Sprint GT will replace it as my daily driver once I've finished the project (a long way away at this stage).  Unfortunately having the windows down and the fan running full bore is not much of a help when you're stuck in Melbourne traffic.

[Tim Jobson]

When looking for my GTV2000 I also had the intention of getting one with an A/C to make it more driveable throughout the year.     However the lack of GTVs with A/C for sale and the realisation that I would probably only drive my 105 to work on non rainy and not really hot days meant it was not such an issue for me.

I had also heard that there may be more starting issues with the battery in the boot (voltage drop etc) and also the safety factor of batteries been close to fuel tanks was another turn off!

Cheers
Tim