GTV6 Clutch

[shane wescott]

Hi Guys

Some advice please.

Jumped in the Mighty GTV6 last week and noticed the clutch felt "different". Over night some of the play was gone and it was engaging quite close to the floor.

I left it alone for the rest of the week hoping the responsible gremlin would jump onto a passing Holden on Bell street, but this morning when I tried to drive to work the clutch was even worse.

So I limped around the corner and back home :-(

So question to the Alfa Brains Trust, does this sound like hydralics, or pressure plate failure. I haven't had a look yet but I suspect I may be putting my brass ones at risk tonight, with a torch, looking for anything obvious.

If it is the clutch pressure plate, is this a massive job or just drop the shaft, coupla bolts and shesa right mate.

Catch ya

Shane

[Mat Francis]

Nah, nothing hard about it really, especially seeing as you have previously done the gearbox mounts i believe?

The only extra bits that come to mind are undoing the clutch line at the join (so either way you're going to have to bleed the clutch) and maybe the speedo cable? dunno where it is on the 75.

Then you need to jack up the rear of the Di Dion tube, which will lower the front of the gearbox. You will need to make up something to jam in between where it bolts to the floor pan. I use the blocksawood. They have to be big enough to allow you to slide the clutch between the floor and the cross member.

Take off your new gearbox mounts.

Now undo the 4 or 5 bolts holding the clutch to the gearbox.

You will have to slide it off at sort of an angle, little bit of a wrestle first time i reckon. Try not to drop it onto your chest, its not the greatest feeling in the world.

Install in reverse and incorporate any steps i've missed. Easy.

[Mat Francis]

Thanks Mick, that's why you're the paid mechanic and i have a bunch of half fixed cars.

I actually didn't read half of it- i assumed it was for the TS. even then i still woulda been miles off. At least my ramblings prompted someone to explain the right way to do it.

Once the clutch is out i handball it off to dad. He's got the necessary tools and know how. I stand there pretending i know what's going on. But you're right, if he wasn't around to do it i'd also be taking it to a specialist.

[Victor Lee]

Check 2 easy things first:
Clutch slave ... remove boot around slave and if it's wet, then you've got a leaking clutch slave.
Also check the position of the clutch slave...mine moved out of its housing one time and caused similar results.

[shane wescott]

Thanks Guys.

I had a look around the master last night and nothing obvious. No obvious lack of fluid in the shared clutch/brake reservoir, so it is off to the backyard for a Sunday assessment.

Sounds like a slave would be easy. So fingers and other crossable body parts are in a holding pattern until Sunday :-)

CAtch ya

Shane

[dehne]

i had same type of problem with my 90 i drove it everyday then for no realreason the clutch ran away i was lucky though it was only the slave it got dirt and shit in it and sort of jamed i just pulled it out and cleaned the crap out and  put it backand off i went lets hope its the same for you

[shane wescott]

update.

Slave not moving more than a couple of mm when clutch pushed so the assumption is I have a hydralic issue :-)

Pulled the slave off today, very old and dogy looking main sale, so will do a new seal/kit/new slave and see how i go.

Al least some progress today :-)

[shane wescott]

further update apparently GTV6 clutch slave cylinders are no longer around so the current fix is to use a 105 slave unit.

has anyone done this and does it just slot in no probs.

If i use a 105 spare in my GTV6 does it make it 1% more classy, and will the clutch but just a little bit better because part of it comes from the awesome 105 series :-)

[shane wescott]

update.

while in the UK i bought a new 105 slave for the GTV6 - total price 32 pounds around 65 bucks or so :-)

Parts seem quite cheap over there.

Should have it in by the weekend :-)

CAtch ya
Shane

[shane wescott]

Bugger needed the master kit as well :-)

So ordered one, raced home tonight (it's great with daylight savings now )

Out into the car to tackle the Master Clutch - the GTV6 one is the one without it's own reservoir.

Loosened the clutch hydralic line - nice and easy.

Hung upside down torch in the face - glasses on and catching bits of whatever falls on my face :-)

After a couple of minutes I get the split pin and bolt out - not bad only 20 minutes spent so far.

Next just have to get these two bolts out - OH NO - :-(  That mongrel engineer has done it again - lets check them off:

1. Limited light to see what is going on - check
2. Heaps of other parts of the car disrupting any access to bolts - check
3. Fragile electrical wiring in the region so new "Electrical Personality" traits may appear - Check
4. One of the botls visible, but the other one totally hidden from view - check

I know just to make it interesting - lets make the bolts 6mm Allen Key Bolts - you mongrel :-(

Seriously would it have killed them to make these standard bolts I have any number of attachments for sockets that would have made the job a snap - but no - it has to be Allen keys.

So out with the trusty 6mm hex key which has spent many a weekend removing drive shafts from 33's and disks off a 75.

Clearly this has taken it's toll as it is now sort of burred :-( Long and short of it is I need a new one so off to Bursons/Repco at some stage.

to be continued ...

[Paul Gulliver]

Shane, I'm on the edge of my seat, and all i get is "to be continued". You could at least go out to the car and re face your 6mm allen key by taking the front seat off the runners 2 or 3 times. I'll keep posted.

Keep up the goood work. It is truly amazing as to what you can turn into a  great yarn.

Cheers


Gully   

[Sheldon McIntosh]

You could at least go out to the car and re face your 6mm allen key by taking the front seat off the runners 2 or 3 times. I'll keep posted.

Keep up the goood work. It is truly amazing as to what you can turn into a  great yarn.

Ha ha, that's good to hear, I thought it was just me and Ironsides that had issues with 6mm allan keys.

And agreed, excellent stuff Shane, I think I need to get you doing a regular column in the magazine.

[Repco Lad]

Hey Shane,

Tools at Repco are currently between 70-80% off RRP. Your Allen key problems are Karma's way of telling you to buy more tools!

RL

[shane wescott]

An Update.....

Thursday found 5 mins to buy a 6mm allen key to 10mm socket adapter :-) even looked like it would do the job.

So Sat morning up bright eyed and bushy tailed. Due to the lack of hand space tried to convince the Spider Monkey to give me some help - no go - apparently primates dont work weekends :-( so i pointed my middle finger at the roof to show him something.

Taking the suggestions pulled out a long 1/2 in extension and a 10mm socket, bashed it on, turned it and easy stuff bottom bolt out. Top one is a different kettle of fish. Eventually manged to get a 3/8 drive socket, two extensions, onto a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter and then the long extension, gave it a bash, out it came. I did have the bottom half of the steering column cover off, couldnt get the top half off but there was enough room to push the long extension through next to it.

I made the call to leave this in position as I figured it would be a bugger to get this arrangement back on the bolt so just leave it.

After a small fight with the "foot" which connects to the pedal all was out. Probably a good idea to remove the foot/spring assembly first, but me being me i always find the most difficult ass about way.

Just cleaning, fitting new seals and putting it back in left. Hopefully a tomorrow job :-)

to be continued...

[shane wescott]

Sheldon,

Happy to do a regular column - Ramblings of the Mechanically Challenged or something like that :-)