Old Alfetta Group A GTV6 article

Started by Victor Lee, October 08, 2009, 10:12:09 PM

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Victor Lee

Just received another good AROCA SA magazine tonight and saw a reprint of an article from Autospeed.com (May 2000) that featured Hugh Harrison's Alfetta Group A. 

Bit of self-interest here (......read the entire article on the link below and you'll see why!), but the AROCA SA editor only printed half the article!    Where's the good bits,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D?

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_0529/article.html

Current Alfas:  Alfa 159 3.2lt Q4; Alfetta GTV6; ES30 SZ (all V6s!);  2015 4C LE.
Past Alfas:      '02 156 2.0lt JTS; '84 Alfetta GTV6; '82 Alfetta GTV 2.0; '85 Alfa 33 1.5 GCL single carb

John Hanslow

Interesting article Victor. 

I see you name is also mentioned there !!!

Cheers.
Now:
2011 Giulietta QV

Previously:
1989 164 3.0  V6
2002 156 Twin Spark Sports Edition
2002 147 Twin Spark
2002 916 Spider Twin Spark
1990 Alfa 75 Potenziata

Paul Gulliver

What ever happened to that car Victor???
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

Victor Lee

That silver GTV6 was a really great road and track car!  It wasn't a concours car, but could hold it's own in Wash n Shine!   I won many Club competition trophies in that car!  I owned that car in the early 90's and had all the usual mods current at that time.  However, I wouldn't miss the fortnightly polishing of the Simmons rims though!

It had no rust and was a very straight car when I sold it in 92/93 (?).  This was my Alfa-less period ...had the opportunity and went to the dark-side in a Porsche 944S2.

Next time we saw the car was 7 or so years later:  The engine was seized, the paint was all faded, missing both wing mirrors, the leather steering wheel was being held together with gaffa tape, a stick was holding up the driver's window (we know this b/c the door trim was gone), seats all ripped, open the bonnet and through the rust you could see through the wheel arches straight to the ground, rear hatch all rusty, every Simmons rim had multiple dents.    :'( :'( :'(   But the owner did chrome the plennum chamber!   ???

Hugh bought it as a wreck and it was last seen as a Scott F project (all stripped out) before it went to the tip as scrap.

I believe Marcus Gordon acquired and repaired the Simmons rims which are now on his 90 towcar.
Current Alfas:  Alfa 159 3.2lt Q4; Alfetta GTV6; ES30 SZ (all V6s!);  2015 4C LE.
Past Alfas:      '02 156 2.0lt JTS; '84 Alfetta GTV6; '82 Alfetta GTV 2.0; '85 Alfa 33 1.5 GCL single carb

Brad M

06 147 JTD 1.9
76 116 GT 2.0
72 105 GTV 2.0

Gone... 2x 147 GTA, 2x 90, 2x SudSprint

Next? ... http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=17067

JOHN G

Engine modifications include shaved heads for increased compression, the ports are machined for extra flow, there's custom extractors and engine chip changes. All up, it's resulted in an increase to a HSV-beating 134 rear wheel kilowatts! Delivering the power to the ground is a higher ratio diff centre complete with LSD. The result of these mildish mods was a two-year class dominance in the MSA championship."

134 rear wheel kw is impressive for such little mods what did the journo leave out?
Victor can you please explain how you took the GTV6 from 118 kW at the flywheel to an impressive 134 kW atw.
From shaving the heads (which all Alfa mechanics have told me not to do to increase compression as shaving heads kills standard cast pistons). Matched ports, custom extractors, chip change (not possible in L jet so you must have ran after market ecu )?
My questions are was this a 2.5 or a 3.0 12v ?
Which aftermarket ecu did you run?
What compression ratio did you end up with and what fuel did you run?
Thank You
John
Present
ALFA 75 3.0
BMW X5 M


Past
Alfa  75 3.0 qv Potenziata (Black) Concours
Alfa GTV6 GP 3.0
Alfa GTV6 GP 2.5 Concours
Alfa GTV6 SA 3.3 AHMotorsport 250Hp ATW (Grey)
Alfa GTV6 3.0 (Black)

Victor Lee

Hi John, 

You're stretching my memory now!  But, you're right, it sounds a bit high!   I think someone (ie the bloke who wrote it) may have got their kilo-wobbles and horsies round the wrong way?  I didn't see this article until months after it was published.

A standard 2.5 V6 12v puts out around 117kw = 160 BHP, correct?  (according to various motor reports of the time)

I also can't recall putting a different diff ratio into that car nor chip change (pretty hard in the standard ECU!).

Hope that answers your queries!

Victor

Current Alfas:  Alfa 159 3.2lt Q4; Alfetta GTV6; ES30 SZ (all V6s!);  2015 4C LE.
Past Alfas:      '02 156 2.0lt JTS; '84 Alfetta GTV6; '82 Alfetta GTV 2.0; '85 Alfa 33 1.5 GCL single carb