alfetta gtv 2000

Nicholas Rossi · November 08, 2009, 08:51:58 PM

pics of the alfetta gtv.

JOHN G · November 08, 2009, 09:06:15 PM

That car was for sale for about 3 years.
I was wondering when somebody was going to buy it.
Personally,I don't like the black bumper model.
But this car looks like it's in fantastic condition for it's age.

John

Nicholas Rossi · November 11, 2009, 05:06:07 PM

I wondered why the bumpers are black could any one tell me about them.
Anyway at the moment its concourse. Ive taken it to Alfa specialists and they reckon it is concourse as well.
does the man called john have any pics of his concourse Alfa I would love to see pics of it.
regards Nick

Sheldon McIntosh · November 11, 2009, 05:33:16 PM

Quote from: Nicholas Rossi on November 11, 2009, 05:06:07 PM
Anyway at the moment its concourse. Ive taken it to Alfa specialists and they reckon it is concourse as well.

I don't understand, your car is a large open area where people can gather? If you mean Concours, then I can understand. (Sorry, this is one of my pet-hate spelling mistakes) Although most concours standard cars have a straight front bumper

Speaking of which, I'd be interested to know about the black bumpers as well. I know US market cars had black bumpers, but they were bigger and uglier than your ones, I think they were the '5 mph' bumpers with integrated shock absorbers.

Car looks very nice apart from those bumpers.

Nicholas Rossi · November 11, 2009, 06:49:21 PM

Every thing on it is black. all the window out lines things and the right hand side mirror and the ALFA ROMEO badge on the back. do you think should make them silver again? Any way here is another pic of it. The funny thing is that they are steel and they have a factory finish.if any body knows please reply!.
Regards Alfa lover Nick

Paul Gulliver · November 11, 2009, 08:05:11 PM

QuoteI wondered why the bumpers are black could any one tell me about them.

All Alfetta GTV's that came to Australia pre 1982 had stainless steel bumpers. ( Hence the term steel bumpered Alfettas). The bumpers are a beautiful piece of work and only weight a few pounds, as opposed to the plastic clad monsters that arrived later. A lot of pundits think that this this first version of the Alfetta GTV is the purist form of the design (i have to state my bias here).

I think you will find that yours are stainless steel that has just been painted or powder coated.

Although fashionable at the time to colour code your bumpers & trim I can't really see the point in painting stainless steel.

These stainless steel bumpers are possibly the only part of an Alfetta that will never rust.

lombardi · November 12, 2009, 05:19:42 PM

If this is the same gtv thats in lilli pilli,ie sutherland shire area-south of sydney-i was going to buy the car,took it for a test drive,it did not drive well,the motor had some sort of misfire,it was owned by an elderly man,he did most of the work on it,body wise was ok,it did have a bump on the front side-right side i think,with a bit of duco chipped off-i was still prepared to buy it as is,he wanted about 8k,i did not believe this was worth it,so i offered him 5k and he laughed at me,a lot of other people did see car and thought the same as me.rgrds

Davidm1600 · November 12, 2009, 05:31:31 PM

Hi all, and picking up from both Sheldon and Paul's comments, I too concur that I have never known of a pre -80s Alfetta GTV to come with anything other than stainless steel bumpers.

The other thing to is that to the best of my knowledge no standard Alfetta would have come with either the black louvres on the rear window or body strip moulding. For a car to be considered in concours condition, it must as I understand it to be as it left the factory. As to the window trims these too from memory were stainless steel, not painted black but I could be wrong on that small matter. Personally if it were my car, I would take it back to original, but I too once had an Alfetta GT, back in the early 90s with painted rear stainless bumper and a painted front (fibreglass combined spoiler/bumper).

However, irrespective of this, it still looks like a nice GTV. Enjoy

Nicholas Rossi · November 12, 2009, 06:15:07 PM

The bumpers are not the only area that has the black finish. The roof drip rail, windo frames front and rear, side windows all have the black chrome treatment. In Europe the update came out in late 1979/1980 with plastic bumpers. The V6 also made an appearance and featured this black chrome in the places I have described. Australia did not get the models for a couple of years latter. I will write to the factory and find out if this treatment was experimental on earlier cars (ie to make sure they got it right before the update appeared with it). To paint or treat the chrome window surrounds would leave tell tale marks and damage. This is a factory finish feature. To the member who test drove this vehicle the miss was coil and plug related, the carbs were way too lean and top dead centre was nowhere near where it should have been. Simple adjustments and an hours work and the car now flys. On a recent trip to Adelaide I covered 1600kms and the car returned 31.6MPG and used 300ml of oil (which in my experience is about spoton). There is a small dent on the front guard, this was never fixed for fear of never being able to match the 31 year old paint, the previous owned didn't want to paint the entire car. The car could not have driven well on tyres that were as old as the car itself (a new set of Michelins totally transformed the ride and handling). I cannot believe that others passed this car up and failed to recognise the potential that it offered. The steel lovure on the rear window was a genuine 1970's option, Peter Stapleton, the Ballarat Alfa dealer told me he sold heaps of them for GTV Alfas. The previous owner knocked $2500 off, what else in this life can you buy for $5500 that stirs the soul. Regards Nicholas.

lombardi · November 12, 2009, 06:26:15 PM

I should have offered him 500 more.rgrds

Craig Sinclair · November 12, 2009, 10:25:59 PM

Hi Nicholas. I came accross a car very simmilar to yours a couple of weeks ago on display at The Maldon Historic Hillclimb, Mt Tarrangower. It had an information board displayed, which claimed it too had been pruchased off an elderly (female) owner and was , to quote "totally original". I would have taken photos if I'd taken my camera, but it too had the blackouts, the rub strips and the balck bumpers. It would be interesting to have the origin of this specification verified. Cheers, Craig

Paul Gulliver · November 13, 2009, 09:14:41 AM

Just to add to the debate, although not specifically about the GTV. Alfa Romeo at this period was close to broke, with not many new models on the horizon. If you cast your minds back i think we can all remember numerous incarnations of the Alfetta sedan, sportiva etc that where basically the same car with a few add on's. Larger dealers in fact used to customize some of their "older new stock" to make it look like an interim new model. This was also a trend that American Alfa dealers were using at the time

Perhaps your car and the car that Craig mentioned fit into this category. Then again they both might have been owned by mullet hair do Alfetta drivers of the late 1970's with similar tastes, but either way they sure didn't leave the factory looking like that.

ProvaRacing · November 13, 2009, 12:45:21 PM

Nicholas if you have a magnet around just place it against your bumper and trim. I won't be surprised when it attracts (or repulses) because it isn't stainless steel. Regular steel with nickel, copper and chrome plating thus magnetic as s/s is not. Firstly stainless steel whilst great protection against rust due to high carbon low ferrous content is damn hard (ever tried drilling s/s with a ordinary drill bit?) and it kills pressing tools that's why it isn't used in cars and the fact it is much more expensive is why i think the only car that ever had stainless steel was the DeLoren with thin planels on GRP...and they went broke.

In my opinion if there is any truth to the original(ness) of these parts being black ex factory then its because they were so out of funds they used steel without the plating process and painted them instead (though I doubt this).

PS The window trims in the auto industry did move to aluminium but I think it was post this GTV. And then they were either anodised a color or anodised clear bright finish (known as electricly polished) but this process was being used in 1982.

Nicholas Rossi · November 20, 2009, 07:48:25 AM

Quote from: Craig Sinclair on November 12, 2009, 10:25:59 PM
Hi Nicholas. I came accross a car very simmilar to yours a couple of weeks ago on display at The Maldon Historic Hillclimb, Mt Tarrangower. It had an information board displayed, which claimed it too had been pruchased off an elderly (female) owner and was , to quote "totally original". I would have taken photos if I'd taken my camera, but it too had the blackouts, the rub strips and the balck bumpers. It would be interesting to have the origin of this specification verified. Cheers, Craig

To Craig it was my car at the Hillclimb. i was on the on the board of directors for the weekend.
Regards Nick