Price for Koni Yellows

[prova]

Hey Kack I'm stoked you have gone 'off topic' - my kind of topic! The twin cam engine can be 'reversed' by 'refazing' the camshafts whatever that really means, I am no engineer. Appently for someone who knows what they are doing it pretty straightforward. I really would like to keep the whole setup FIAT keeping the original box which by the way can handle up to 200hp reliably. Not bad for a pretty small gearbox. The driveshafts would be a weakness. You can get custom shafts/couplings or FIAT 128 and Alfetta driveshafts have been customised to fit.

Hey mate I would love to know more about the 850. Would you be able to find out the price, location and body condition. I would be really keen to find out. I would always have to factor in transportation so its price would be a key factor. Thanks heaps for your post.

[kartone]

Prova, was at the show Sunday but without the GTV . Did you see the Lamborghini Miura S and the Lancia Integrales ?
I do you upload photos to the forum ?

[prova]

Great day but to hot to really just enjoy yourself. I first saw this Muira at the (Maldon) Mt Tarrengower Hillclimb and I got speaking to the owner Ean - a very nice guy. He also owns the most amazing collection of Italian cars and his daily driver is a Porsche 911 Turbo from the 80's - nice! He has this most beautiful ASI with a 750cc twin cam. It looks like a miniature Ferrari of the late 60's. He also has a FIAT based single seater racing car from the 50's and a host of other cars as well. The Lancia's made a great impression. I didn't get my camera out this year so sorry no photos. Did you see my car?

[prova]

Just fitted the B4 Bilsteins. I fitted the front two last week and I noticed only a slight improvement in ride/handling even though the shockers I removed were somewhat knackered. They were not the original shocks as I first suspected but old Monroes. One in particular was very hard to draw but collapsed way too easily. I was surprised at only a slight improvement. Tonight I fitted the rears and these were also tired. These really made a big improvement to the handling. I live in regional Victoria about a 20 minute drive from Geelong. When I leave my driveway I am instantly onto windy and hilly 'quiet as' country roads. I know these roads quite well and how my car drives through them. Really impressed with the more positive attitude of the car, less body roll and more controlled with much higher cornering speeds and I am really stoked. I am going to start up a new thread and ask you guys what else can be done to improve its handling.
Thanks guys for all of your input - did anyone else buy a set of these shockers through Alfisti?

I am chasing a second hand set of Pace rear springs at the moment would these work with standard torsion bars?

[carjunky]

Prova,
       I have just pulled out my Pace springs, they have done about 4,000 km's. They were too firm and made the rear of the car lower which looks odd when the front isn't lowered also and they were his softer springs. The car is much more comfortable now.

[prova]

Thanks Car Junky. Thats bad news for me - I just agreed to buy a pair! Although I am going to lower the front. I will give them a go anyway and let you guys know what my thoughts are. Anyone else used them particularly with standard front torsion bars?

[carjunky]

Can't you cancel?

[116gtv]

you could fit a bigger swaybar to control the front end abit better.

trouble is you need a really big one to make it work well but anything bigger than you have will help..

[prova]

So do you mean the stiffer rear springs will work okay with lowered standard torsion bars PLUS a larger diameter front anti roll bar? I have seen Selbys bars advertised quite often on Ebay. Are these okay? Or are there better options? I got a price for poly bushing most of the car from SuperPro about $300 has anyone got some advice on these?

[grpa9x]

prova,
hi, i got my bilsteins a couple of weeks ago from alfisti, i havent fitted them yet, thanks for help with the details.
cheers michael

[grpa9x]

Can't you cancel?

hey carjunky are you looking to off load the springs,??
cheers michael

[prova]

Hi Carjunky I haven't paid for them yet so I suppose I can pull out (but I am really keen as well to give them a go!). Can I ask how much the springs were new? Grpa9X can you let us know what you think of the Bilsteins after you fit them - pretty easy to fit by the way.

[116gtv]

So do you mean the stiffer rear springs will work okay with lowered standard torsion bars PLUS a larger diameter front anti roll bar? I have seen Selbys bars advertised quite often on Ebay. Are these okay? Or are there better options? I got a price for poly bushing most of the car from SuperPro about $300 has anyone got some advice on these?

Yes, it makes a big difference and its not a bad option for a road car - the front roll is reduced by the big swaybar and the rear roll somewhat controlled with bigger springs. Its a bit of hit and miss to balance the two when you first start. If you can get your hands on 23.6mm  gtv6 torsion bars cheaply then get those since you are moving the bars anyway to lower it.  If you match those with a 22-24mm sway bar upfront and 170 odd pound rear spring from pace than you're not too far off. If you cant get bigger torsion bars then I'd get a 27mm selby roll bar, adjustable or not. Dont lower the front too much unless you just want the looks and flattened down pipes.. Otherwise you can fork out more bucks for 27/28mm torsion bars and keep our swaybar which is 18 or 20 mm and do the rear as above...

[prova]

Great info '116gtv'. My car is an 85 GTV with aircon and thought that I may have already fitted the 23mm torsion bars. I will measure them later. If I have its sounds like they might be okay for my plans. So I think this is my plan: Check existing tosion bar diameter and lower moderately, fit PACE rear springs and source a larger front anti roll bar. I think some poly bushes will be finding a home as well.

With this setup what would be the ideal front wheel alignment settings (is the rear adjustable)? I have noticed adjustable camber bolts for the front end advertised as well - I thought lowering the front end would introduce camber anyway? or are these a worthwhile modification?

[Mat Francis]

Great info '116gtv'. My car is an 85 GTV with aircon and thought that I may have already fitted the 23mm torsion bars. I will measure them later. If I have its sounds like they might be okay for my plans. So I think this is my plan: Check existing tosion bar diameter and lower moderately, fit PACE rear springs and source a larger front anti roll bar. I think some poly bushes will be finding a home as well.

With this setup what would be the ideal front wheel alignment settings (is the rear adjustable)? I have noticed adjustable camber bolts for the front end advertised as well - I thought lowering the front end would introduce camber anyway? or are these a worthwhile modification?

Your car should have the 23mm torsion bars.

If you achieve negative camber as a result of lowering the front end, you have lowered it far too much. You will have sent the front roll center underground, and the thing will handle like a bag of shit. Unless you really know what you're doing, lowering the car is likely to make it handle worse. Check with a specialist before you do it. (and don't use the same techniques discussed recently on here...)

1.5 degrees negative camber, 5 degrees caster and i think it's about 1mm toe in (or is it out? someone else should know) should work pretty well for a road car. Unless you're pretty unlucky you shouldn't need longer bolts to achieve sensible camber for a road car.