250 83 Twin Carb Sud Ti's

Started by DAMO1A, November 04, 2010, 07:53:21 AM

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DAMO1A

I understand that there were 250 of the last of the Alfasuds, the 1983 Alfasud Ti QV, imported into Australia in 1983.  There were some still sold new in 1984.

I have had three over the years.  All Victorian registered.  I am fortunate to have recently bought a very well cared for example (thanks LC).

Where are the 83 Twin Carb Sud Tis now?   How many still survive?  Do you have one or were you once the proud owner?

What was your experience with this wonderful car?

It would be great to hear about your experience and even see some photos.



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Paul Newby

I would doubt that 10% of the Twin Carb Suds  survive in roadworthy condition today.

A friend of mine bought a silver Twin Carb about 15 years ago. He got it at a good price (the owner didn't seem to know what he had) too. My friend had bought it for his daughter but thought better of it (she was a car killer...) and he generously let me drive it for about a month.

It was in good condition and drove very well. However you just knew that the rustworm was not too far away. It was only a matter of time before it would have succumbed...  :'(

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Ray Pignataro

mine is a 1983 green cloverleaf ti sud one of only 3 brought into australia

DAMO1A

Quote from: Ray Pignataro on November 04, 2010, 07:42:59 PMone of only 3 brought into australia

Sounds interesting, was yours a private import?
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Ray Pignataro

who would know ? Colin thomas gave me the numbers a few years ago apparently Malcolm Fraser had one and I dont know who else . I had already bastardised the car by this time. I have the origanal books that came with the car was origanaly sold in NSW. then came to vic where benincas did the servicing, I bought it in1996 or 1997

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Damo

Agree with your comments as my understanding is that 250 Ti QV's were brought into Aust and also concur with Paul that very few are left registered and in reasonable 'nick'. I know of about 7 registered models and only a few in excellent condition.

I have only seen two different build dates on the cars in Aust (July 83 and late 83 from memory) so assume they were delivered in two shipments. The late 83 deliveries would have been the cars sold in 84. Great you have a new Sud to play with and from your background, sounds like you understand the cars - enjoy! Would be keen to see the car if you bring to Spettacollo.

Ray, I am interested when you mention that your car was 1 of only 3 Ti Sud's. I was not aware of any  limited Suds bought into Aust other than the Ti QV's?

Happy Sud motoring.

Paul

DAMO1A

In 1983 the last of the famous Alfasuds were made, the QV (Ti green cloverleaf) and the QO (4 door).  250 of the Ti's were imported into Australia....a few other interesting figures from 1983:


  • Australia's population was around 15 million (now 22 million)
  • the average age in Australia was 29 (now 38)
  • the most common age was 36 (and there were 9000 more women than men at this age)
  • the average weekly earnings was $324 (now over $1000)
  • the median house price was $60,000 (now over $500,000)
  • the Australia dollar floated in 1983 and was at its highest rate of 98.3 US cents soon aftern.  It didn't return to this level intil 7 October 2010
  • Bob Hawke's Labour Party defeated Malcom Fraser bringing an end 7 years of coalition government and was the first of 5 successive election wins for the ALP
  • the cost of a 1983 Alfasud Ti was $13,900
  • it cost less than $20 to fill that tank for your new Alfasud Ti
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enzo1891

well i have had in past it was a red ti 1984 and now i just bought the silver ti that was advertised

stustustu123

The owner of my old Sud Ti (who is a club regular) showed me something interesting at the Lygon St Alfa club display earlier this year...  Stamped on the B pillar on the '83 Sud Ti is a number that designates which of the 250 you are looking at.  I'd never even noticed this number when I owned the car back in the day...
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1993 164 Super
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1992 164Q (Black)
1989 164 (White)
1988 75 3.0 V6
1983 Sud Ti

DAMO1A

Quote from: stustustu123 on November 21, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
The owner of my old Sud Ti (who is a club regular) showed me something interesting at the Lygon St Alfa club display earlier this year...  Stamped on the B pillar on the '83 Sud Ti is a number that designates which of the 250 you are looking at.  I'd never even noticed this number when I owned the car back in the day...

Wow. I never knew that existed.  I will be checking as soon as I get home!
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stustustu123

I meant to say the B-pillar on the PASSENGER SIDE!!!
2007 159 SW 2.4 JTDM
1993 164 Super
Past:
1994 164 Super (Blue)
1992 164Q (Black)
1989 164 (White)
1988 75 3.0 V6
1983 Sud Ti

DAMO1A

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Sportscar Nut

Guys

The number you are referring to is a panel/ production code (I think) but not an Aust import number. Also is a 4 digit stamp.

PS. Mine is 0071 as well!

Paul

DAMO1A

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stustustu123

2007 159 SW 2.4 JTDM
1993 164 Super
Past:
1994 164 Super (Blue)
1992 164Q (Black)
1989 164 (White)
1988 75 3.0 V6
1983 Sud Ti