GTV6 Grand Prix build dates

[Dna Dave]

hi all,
well the rumour of mine being one of two has been soundly dissmissed, we already have 3.
cheers michael

Oh well, one of three is still pretty good 

[alanm]

3 out of our sample group of 8 cars says that GP's came out of the factory with both tan and black interiors.
It seems very unlikely that 38% (have I got that right, awful mathematician) of our cars have had their door trim and seats replaced by items from OLDER cars.

If I am right that is an important geek learning from this thread – GP's came with black and tan interiors!

Alan

[grpa9x]

alan,
thats exactly the conclusion i came up with, hopefully a few more owners will jump onboard.
cheers michael

[aggie57]

Guys - an interesting thread.  On the black vs. tan though don't forget that a hell of a lot more GTV6's were sold with black interiors than tan. As a result tan interiors are almost impossible to find second hand and the material for the seats was out of stock many many years ago.

At the same time your cars, as a group, seem to include some of the best preserved examples of the series.  So it's not hard to imagine a previous owner, being faced with a worn tan interior deciding to replace with a pristine black one.  It's a pretty simple change over so long as you have all the individual parts.

[alanm]

Another issue to factor in there is the tendency for the black velour to fade.
I looked at a few GTV6's with black interiors before I bought mine and most suffered from fading.
The seats fade from black to a kind of copper brown colour.
The tan interior does not appear to fade the same way, so once again I come to the conclusion that the cars came out of the factory with black and tan interiors.

Surely someone out there recalls the cars when they were new!!

Alan

[grpa9x]

Guys - an interesting thread.  On the black vs. tan though don't forget that a hell of a lot more GTV6's were sold with black interiors than tan. As a result tan interiors are almost impossible to find second hand and the material for the seats was out of stock many many years ago.

At the same time your cars, as a group, seem to include some of the best preserved examples of the series.  So it's not hard to imagine a previous owner, being faced with a worn tan interior deciding to replace with a pristine black one.  It's a pretty simple change over so long as you have all the individual parts.

i think we are drawing a long bow here, based on this assumption, could we also consider that all gp's came out with black trim and the worn ones changed to tan. We nearly have a 50-50 split in trim colours here and only 8 cars, just because some didnt know or dont believe that there were black trimmed cars doesnt make it so.
On a side note i also know of a sydney based gp that has been retrimmed in tan leather, now was that car originally a black trim or a tan trim, i will try and find the details.
cheers michael

[bteoh]

Could it be possible where the trims could have been swapped when new at the local alfa dealerships due to customer preferences?

[grpa9x]

Could it be possible where the trims could have been swapped when new at the local alfa dealerships due to customer preferences?

This scenario may have occured,   but if as i suggest  that they were produced in both trim types then there would be no need to swap them. I  am curious to know why there are people who insist that these cars were not produced with two trim colours, where is it published that tan trim was the only colour you could get, this is just a myth, until some one can prove without doubt that this was the case it is crap. Except it, black trimmed gp's exist, and i have the proof in my garage as do others.
cheers michael

[JOHN G]

Yes keep telling your self that until you believe it LOL

Could you check the colour of your ECU cover for me (the leather cover) not the kick panel.

I have a theory which I feel is fail safe in telling a fake from a real GTV6 GP ( Australian delivered)

Michael have you sent a email to CentroDocumentazione@alfaromeo.com (Marco Fazio) ?

John

[Rok_Dr]

Well to add a bit more to the mix. I did contact CentroDocumentazione@alfaromeo.com (Marco Fazio) a few years ago. Basically they confirmed Paint colour (AR530), Build and selling date and dealer location, but were silent about the trim colour for my car. So no enlightenment there.

WRT to theories they are only that and without any hard evidence from Alfa Romeo can't confirm or deny, what was sold in 86/87 as a Grand Prix.

From the information I have
  - They were the only GTV6 sold in Australia with the unleaded engine
  - Body kit with Rayton Fissore

[Rok_Dr]

opps hit the wrong button   so to continue...

- soft black rear spoiler.

Out of curiosity the attached image is an edited scan of the cover of the service book from my car. Top right number after 6GP is the last four digits from the Chassis code. Bottom right I interpret as Pirelli tyres. As to the bottom left code ROAL/AGV perhaps that is the paint/trim code. Can anyone decode this?

Cheers Steve

[JOHN G]

My List...

The very last of the GTV6's
Rayton Fissore body kit with fog lamps
Rosso ALFA AR 530 Smalto Acrilico
Wine glass rims
Sunroof
AC
ALFA ROMEO/Pioneer stereo with amp
White stitched leather bound steering wheel
White stitched leather gear knob
Aerial in the front windscreen
Grand Prix front grill red with large badge
ALFA ROMEO Script written in Block capital lettering on rocker covers
6C on plenum
Catalytic convertor Unleaded fuel only 117kw 1kw down on power
Twin plate clutch
TAN INTERIOR only in Australian models
Date of sale on this one 22/03/1989
113016 6GP-4563
Marshalls Alfa

John.

[alanm]

A scan of my service Coupon Booklet
Looks like the dealership hand wrote additional info onto the sticker noting that it is a red/brown Grand Prix.
The key number is self explanatory but I others I don't know.
The ROAL/AGV code matches yours Steve, so maybe it doesn't relate to trim.

Cheers
Alan

[grpa9x]

allan, my coupon booklet only differs from yours and steves on the top line;
mine reads 161019      6gp-4517,
cheers michael

[grpa9x]

Yes keep telling your self that until you believe it LOL

Could you check the colour of your ECU cover for me (the leather cover) not the kick panel.

I have a theory which I feel is fail safe in telling a fake from a real GTV6 GP ( Australian delivered)

Michael have you sent a email to CentroDocumentazione@alfaromeo.com (Marco Fazio) ?

John

john,
it would seem that you are adament that both my car and steves are fakes; any chance a
self proclaimed expert could prove his theories , i am certainly interested in hearing your wisdom, any documented proof would suffice,lol :cheers michael