1966 Giulia Super Project

Started by ItalCarGuy, December 30, 2010, 04:16:40 PM

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Fetta GTV

Car looks great Derek
Now the fun begins, Santa bringing any nice parts

Cheers
David
1979 Alfetta GTV
1986 Alfa Sprint 1.5 twin carb

ItalCarGuy

Thanks Paul. I am hopeful to move it along quickly from this point(its still registered!) and I should have most of the external bits on it by the end of this weekend. I'm like one of those bobsleders imagining their course ahead and practicing my moves!
Weekend task is all doors/glass/handles/seals assembled, boot & bonnet with various latches and seals and hopefully all the lights. That will get my car to 'lock up' stage. I am itching to get in that engine bay though!

Yes David, the receptionist just made a joke about 5 minutes ago that she reckons she has transported about 2 1/2 cars to my desk. Probably not to far off! I have a large Classic Alfa box that just arrived as well as a lovely freshly made mech fuel pump block of plate from a Canadian Alfisti off the AlfaBB and I got a beautiful pair of rebuilt Webers from a Giulia Super owner in Melbourne (the one with the turbo fitted!) last week. I was going to get mine rebuilt but I couldn't pass these ones up.

ItalCarGuy

OK a bit of a catchup for the AROCA forum! I have been busy reassembling the Super. Well actually I am a bit time poor at the moment but its getting there. Externally it is pretty much done. Just a couple of small trim bits to go.


ItalCarGuy

On the weekend I moved on the the interior. The carpet is now in. I also needed to install some sound and heat proofing on the floor pans since I had removed the factory stuff in able to coat the floors with a sufficient covering that would give me piece of mind with rust protection. I used POR-15 a couple of years ago and it is doing its job very well. It is extremely hard, almost ceramic, non-porous, has a bit of flex to it, and is self-leveling so you can brush it on and it will give a nice shiny finish.

If you do want to remove the factory bituminous sound deadener don't just try and scrape it off using a heat gun. Buy a bucket of dry ice pellets (very cheap) and sprinkle them over it, leave for 10 minutes, the sound deadener subsequently hardened to brittle level and I just chipped it off to the factory primer. Floor pans were squeeky clean 30 minutes later! Best not to try and grind this stuff off for another reason, and that is that it more than likely contains asbestos...

The Dynamat went down very easily. It is an easy product to work with and is so shiny! Its a pity to cover it up. I sorta think Dynamat is as much about the branding as it is to have a little polo player embroidered on your pocket. I had a look at the local Jaycar electrical store and you can get a very similar product for a lot less. Hard to see that there could be heaps of difference between their performance when they use the same materials. You just miss out on all that Dynamat branding all over your floorpan!

I got some underlay from a moulded carpets place in Underwood which went on top of the Dynamat and then put my carpet on that. I'm just reusing the non-original carpet I had in the car previously as I plan to get the good stuff down the track when I get the seats and door cards retrimmed. All the miss-matched seats and door cards will be vinyl painted black. Gotta keep to a budget, which is next to nothing!

Davidm1600

Hi Derek, looking nice and shiny with all the underlay, re the carpet, when you can afford it, I believe Classic Alfa have the correct spec Italian grey carpet for 105s.  At this stage for the GT/GTVs but it could be worth asking if they are going to have carpet sets made for Giulia Super's in future.

On a completely different but slightly related note, I just got back from Bryon Bay late yesterday, and just wanted to note we managed to check out both Targa and St Elmo, with their Italian sedan (Lancia Flavia and Giulia Super frescos).  Nice places to relax and have a drink/meal.

BTW, where did you buy the POR 15 from, as I should get myself some of this for my cars floors ?  Do the normal car shops stock this or do you need to go to a car paint place ??

Current:
2003 JTS 156 sportwagon
1969 Giulia sedan (x2)
1969 AC Fiat 124 sport

Past: '76 Alfetta 1.8 GT 
        '76 Alfetta 1.8 Sedan
        ' 73 2L Berlina

ItalCarGuy

Hi Dave,
For the carpet and maybe seats I am going to go with Paolini in Italy as they have accurate templates. I will see what Classic come up with though as I have used them for a lot of parts to date and am very happy with their service.

I got my POR-15 from a car paint suppliers but I have also ordered from www.ppcco.com.au in the past. There is a comparable Australian product called Rustseal by KBS Coatings. It is also very good. I have a can of that as well as the Tank repair kit that I am about to use.


Davidm1600

Thanks Derek, as ever, most helpful advice, will follow up on these.
Current:
2003 JTS 156 sportwagon
1969 Giulia sedan (x2)
1969 AC Fiat 124 sport

Past: '76 Alfetta 1.8 GT 
        '76 Alfetta 1.8 Sedan
        ' 73 2L Berlina

Paul Gulliver

QuoteI had a look at the local Jaycar electrical store and you can get a very similar product for a lot less

Derek,

I had a quick look on there web site and couldn't find anything . Do you know what it is callled ???

Gully
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

ItalCarGuy

Looks like the label says 'Mat Sound Dead Butyl Foam', though I can't make out the code. Not sure how much is in each tube though. It comes in 1.5mm foil backed butyl(like dynamat) or 5mm butyl/foam combo.



David Mills

Quote from: Davidm1750 on February 21, 2012, 01:12:43 PM
Thanks Derek, as ever, most helpful advice, will follow up on these.
Dave, The Fibreglass Shop in Argyle St are stockists.

Derek, as an owner of a white Super a long time ago I enjoy your thread.

Cheers

ItalCarGuy

Quote from: David Mills on February 21, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
Derek, as an owner of a white Super a long time ago I enjoy your thread.

Thanks David, I can use all the encouraging I can get! Its funny how many people used to come up to me and say they/their dad/uncle etc used to have one and they had fond memories of it.

I know its not a sensible thing financially to fix up this car but I hope I get a few years of enjoyment out of it. Sometimes you just feel like cutting your losses but I think I am getting close-ish to the finish line.

Davidm1600

Quote from: David Mills on February 21, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Davidm1750 on February 21, 2012, 01:12:43 PM
Thanks Derek, as ever, most helpful advice, will follow up on these.
Dave, The Fibreglass Shop in Argyle St are stockists.

Derek, as an owner of a white Super a long time ago I enjoy your thread.

Cheers

Thanks David, will grab some from them. Derek, I know the feeling re the cost of it all, but given how close you are now, it would be maddness to stop. Enjoy the process of finishing it and then let us know just how great it feels when you have that first drive.  Of course we will be envious as hell.


Current:
2003 JTS 156 sportwagon
1969 Giulia sedan (x2)
1969 AC Fiat 124 sport

Past: '76 Alfetta 1.8 GT 
        '76 Alfetta 1.8 Sedan
        ' 73 2L Berlina

ItalCarGuy

Time for an update I guess. I've been sorting a few smaller bits out as I get ready to fill the engine bay back up. I had the Bonaldi booster rebuilt. A few little tweaks there that I will post about later. But as for some more photos, here are my engine components looking lovely and clean!

I had them vapour blasted by Jason at Rust Busters. I felt confident to go with him as he and his father-in-law are very familar with Alfas, Fiats etc. http://www.ardelve.com.au/services.php#Abrasablast

Taken from their website:

The process is applied using graded spherical glass beads in our Vaqua high performance aqua-blast machine, which simultaneously degreases and provides rust inhibition.
With the Vapourblast process there is NO IMPREGNATION of the surface and no damage to sharp edges and precision surfaces


I am very happy with the results. The block isn't in the pics as there was a bit of corrosion on the #1 cylinder liner seat that is getting rectified. Also attached is a before photo!

ItalCarGuy

Here are a couple of pics of all the goodies for my engine too. NOS piston/liners, full gasket kit, Reinz head gasket, etc. I had also heard the aftermarket rear seals can squeal a bit when new, so was happy to see I have an Alfa one in the kit.


Craig_m67

Quote from: Derek Entesano on May 15, 2012, 02:08:43 PM

I had them vapour blasted by Jason at Rust Busters. I felt confident to go with him as he and his father-in-law are very familar with Alfas, Fiats etc. http://www.ardelve.com.au/services.php#Abrasablast


I want/need to do that, just because I like shiney things :)
Was it expensive (like, who's counting anymore!!)

Are you going to clear coat them with something to stop future corrosion/dulling. I remember s thread by daron/akitaman on the BB where he mentioned clear coating Al parts with some motorcycle clear paint, I think.

Yes it's all about shiney things for me at the moment.
'66 Duetto (lacework of doom)
'73 1600 GT Junior (ensconced)
'03 156 1.9JTD Sportwagon (daily driver)