Alfa 90 won't start - HELP

Started by minipete, January 31, 2011, 04:28:45 PM

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minipete

We washed the engine bay of my friend's 90 yesterday and now it won't start.

Battery is healthy, it kicks over fine and fires then dies immediately.  Can't get it to run at all.

I have dried out the dizzy cap and cleaned all the contacts.  I have pulled all the plug leads and dried out any water that got down to the plugs.

It has a healthy spark and you can smell petrol when you pump the throttle.

Is there anything in the engine bay, maybe a sensor that could be affected by water and stop the engine getting fuel?

It's been sitting in my driveway in the 40 deg heat with the engine bay open hoping it will dry out but no luck so far.

Maybe it's like my dog and just doesn't like having a bath.

Pete


JOHN G

You not suppose to wash engine mate.

You can degrease and or steam clean engine's.

Tell us exactly what you did was the engine cold or hot at the time?

John


Present
ALFA 75 3.0
BMW X5 M


Past
Alfa  75 3.0 qv Potenziata (Black) Concours
Alfa GTV6 GP 3.0
Alfa GTV6 GP 2.5 Concours
Alfa GTV6 SA 3.3 AHMotorsport 250Hp ATW (Grey)
Alfa GTV6 3.0 (Black)

dehne

i wash my engine bay all the time i degrease then high pressure soap wash the high pressure rinse ive never had a prob but my friends do, what you need to do is
a. let it dry out for a day or so
b. if you can roll start it it will run like a dog for 30 seconds then all will be fine
now
1x 85 mdl road 90
2013 Giulietta 1.4
2015 Launch Edition Giulietta
Past
Multiple Alfa 90's, Alfetta's and 147's

minipete

The engine was really filthy so he hit it with some degreaser then the Gerni.

I've done this many times over the years successfully but never on a modern car with EFI and relays everywhere.

Now it looks great but doesn't go.

I will check the fuel pump relay if i can find it.  Seems like a lack of fuel to me.

Pete


minipete

I tried again after dinner and finally got it going.  Runs like a dog.

Pulled the plug leads one by one to test for spark and the back 2 cylinders aren't firing.  Plenty of zap going through the lead and for some reason the plugs aren't firing.

In the morning when it has cooled down I will pull the plugs and have a look at them.  It would be a real coincidence if 2 of the plugs are duds.

Thanks to all those who helped.

Pete

dehne

because it forces the engine to fire and its not just trying to turn over with just bat power
now
1x 85 mdl road 90
2013 Giulietta 1.4
2015 Launch Edition Giulietta
Past
Multiple Alfa 90's, Alfetta's and 147's

dehne

ill tell you now that this does work water gets in somehow near injectors when normal car startoing with key it does not have the power to turn over properly and buy roll starting every thing if forced to move and turn over petrol is force through the lines and there for and water within is forced to move and hence yopu get a short burst of shit running then car goes back to normal, if your ever in bendigo im happy to show you that this does work
so once again im right just like always  :D ;D
now
1x 85 mdl road 90
2013 Giulietta 1.4
2015 Launch Edition Giulietta
Past
Multiple Alfa 90's, Alfetta's and 147's

JOHN G



DEHNE CRANE
DEHNE Crane
Dehne Crane.

Present
ALFA 75 3.0
BMW X5 M


Past
Alfa  75 3.0 qv Potenziata (Black) Concours
Alfa GTV6 GP 3.0
Alfa GTV6 GP 2.5 Concours
Alfa GTV6 SA 3.3 AHMotorsport 250Hp ATW (Grey)
Alfa GTV6 3.0 (Black)

Sheldon McIntosh


Paul Gulliver

#9
QuoteQuote from: JOHN G on Today at 02:29:48 PM
DEHNE CRANE
DEHNE Crane
Dehne Crane.


Ha ha    

Very good.

You might have to explain it to the guy in Bendigo, who's never made a mistake . He mightn't be allowed up that late to watch it.


Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

dehne

#10
i see my self more as allan shore, not danny crane, allan get more ladies  ;)
now
1x 85 mdl road 90
2013 Giulietta 1.4
2015 Launch Edition Giulietta
Past
Multiple Alfa 90's, Alfetta's and 147's

Evan Bottcher

I didn't get it.  Don't watch enough TV..?
Newest to oldest:
'13 Alfa Mito QV
'77 Alfasud Ti
'74 Alfasud Sedan
'68 1750 GTV
--> Slow and Fun - my Alfa journal

minipete

I cleaned the plugs and it started and ran like a dream.  I think he needs to use better fuel.

Must be a coincidence it happened after an engine clean.

Thanks again everyone.

Pete

alfagtv152

Hi Pete,
It happens from time to time,could of been moisture in the plug holes as they are deep in the head.
I took my 90 to crash repairer once for him to redo some work,paint pealing on the bumper,becaues Shannons said they guarentee all repairs for life.Long story short he wasn't happy about it and when I picked up the car it missed and ran like a dog,I wasn't happy and we nearly came to blows as I thought he may have done something vindictive but it just turned out to be plugs!.
Cheers
Andrew
SEE YOUR BACKSIDE TRACKSIDE.White 156 TI JTS,Silly Speed.

JOHN G


Yes I forgot to reply to busy laughing at Dehne .

What I always do is is grab the air compressor remove the spark pulg leads and blow out the spark plug wells.

John.
Present
ALFA 75 3.0
BMW X5 M


Past
Alfa  75 3.0 qv Potenziata (Black) Concours
Alfa GTV6 GP 3.0
Alfa GTV6 GP 2.5 Concours
Alfa GTV6 SA 3.3 AHMotorsport 250Hp ATW (Grey)
Alfa GTV6 3.0 (Black)