What model is this?

[EZEE]

You wouldn't believe it - I was just driving to officeworks here in the inner west of Sydney, driving past a classic car dealer who has some older Rolls, amercian muscle, older mercs etc...etc......., the place looked closed. I never usually give it a second glance but this time the rear roller door was open so I look in and spy a red 105 coupe! I stop, go in and sure enough there it is........a red coupe, rear boot lid says "1300gt junior", looks complete. Step nose, single headlight in a nice red (looks like original colour but defintiely a repaint) Apparently car has been sitting for 5-6 years and has no history.....Met the sales guy and mechanic who were surprised by my enthusiasm. They didn't know much about the car at all. It was being "preapred" for sale later next week.......

I cannot tell exactly what model it is (apart from the badge I mentioned of course) - I called my man Frank who will come down Tuesday to look at it but in the meantime thought I could do some research here first.

Was there a 1300GT Junior imported into Oz? if so what years? Does the car look original equipment wise judging from the few shots I have? I couldn't take that many photos and looks like I stuffed up the one with the model number it was 105.3#@ maybe.....? should there be a compliance plate? does that dash look like the right one?

thanks in advance...

Cheers

Emmanuel

[EZEE]

two more photos

[aggie57]

It's a series 2 GT Junior, from around 1969-70.  Step nose with 14" wheels and 1750 style dashboard.  At a glance this one looks correct, including the 2 spoke steering wheel.

In Australia we got this series Junior as a 1300 and the later series 3 Junior as a 1600.  The series 3 had the later nose but in most respects was much the same as the series 2.  We didn't get the last series of Juniors which are essentially a 2000 GTV but with small tail lights and no overriders on the bumpers.  The series 3 and series 4 were sold in Europe as both a 1300 and a 1600.

[EZEE]

thanks for the heads up.......I appreciate it.

EZ

[Evan Bottcher]

The type badge says 105.31 (if I squint extra hard and call on my super-astigmatism powers).  That matches up to a RHD GT 1300 Jr, as Alister has already said.  Looks quite tidy in the photos, and step-noses are lovely!  Good luck.

[EZEE]

Thanks Evan,

Should the rear boot lid have a badge on it? This one doesn't......

damn long weekend means a three day wait before I can see it or do anything now!

Emmanuel

[pancho]

Only badge on the boot should be the script - no Alfa badge.

[aggie57]

If you do buy it and want a good reference I can recommend "Alfa Romeo Guilia GT" , from the Cars That Made History series published by Giorgio Nada Editore in 1990-91.  It contains quite a few good quality period photo's of most variants and has a section devoted to the Juniors.

We used one of these in club events for a couple of years starting in 1987.  It was affectionately known as the Rocket because with a tired 1300 patently it was anything but.  But it was fun and taught us alot at very little cost.

[1750GTV]

Emmanuel,
Fusi quotes the following chassis numbers for the 103.31 series (Giulia GT 1300 Junior RHD):
The numbers in brackets are those built in Milan and those exported ckd (completely knocked down) for assembly overseas - usually in South Africa as RHD exports.

1966 105.31.129.0001 to 105.31.129.0002 (1 built)
1967 105.31.129.0003 to 105.31.129.0655 (471+182 = 653)
1968 105.31.129.0656 to 105.31.129.1483 (607+221 = 828)
1969 105.31.129.1484 to 105.31.129.2303 (602+218 = 820)
1970 105.31.129.2304 to 105.31.129.3029 (486+240 = 726)
1971 105.31.129.5001 to 105.31.129.6184 (544+640 = 1184) Start of the last Series, smooth front models.
1972 105.31.129.6185 to 105.31.129.6524 (240+100 = 340)

Don't have any numbers after 1972, sorry.
My brother had a late model one years ago and from memory it was a fantastic little car - revved like crazy and went like stink (or so it seemed from the passengers seat ..)
Somewhere around here I might still have some literature - I'll have a look this afternoon.
Good luck and if it's a good one at a sensible price, go for it,
Chris

[1750GTV]

The brochure.

Chris

[EZEE]

Thanks Chris,
You wouldn't happen to have a spare brochure you would like to sell?  I am trying to collect memorabilia along the way to match the cars I own.

From all the advice that I have received in the last 24 hours, I have to chase this first thing Tuesday.  Like I  have said before, my man Frank will look at it to see if the engine is the original and if the body is ok.  My gut feel is that if body is ok and the price is right I will buy it because I love the stepnose look (and plus it's my birthday on Thursday) if not original motor then less presure to keep it original land I can make it a useable car to add to my collection. 
Cheers.

EZ

[David Mills]

EZ
I bought a 1970 version of the 1300J around 1990 when I was teaching my first born to drive.  My logic was; it was a fun car, very safe to drive , made all the right noises but was very safe.  Anyway he loved driving it and so did I. So much so that I used it as my daily driver for a couple of years.  I sold it for 50% more than I paid for it and it went to Japan where they were allowed to register classics but not ordinary old cars.

If you like it , buy it. I don't think you will be disappointed.

Cheers Dave

[1750GTV]

Thanks Chris,
You wouldn't happen to have a spare brochure you would like to sell?  I am trying to collect memorabilia along the way to match the cars I own.

I only have the one and, like you, I also collect memorabilia. If you wish, I'll keep an eye out for you.

Let us know what the car is like and whether you eventually buy.

Chris

[MD]

Should that motor have two valleys across the rocker cover for a crossover air intake to be a genuine engine?

[Evan Bottcher]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-1300-GT-Junior-1967-69-UK-Brochure-/180666260931