What model is this?

[1750GTV]

Should that motor have two valleys across the rocker cover for a crossover air intake to be a genuine engine?

Fusi has a photo of the 1300 GTJ engine bay (p642) that looks the same as above except it's LHD. I can't see which series it is though.

For 1969 the engine numbers ranged from 00530.14573 to 00530.31086 (16513 engines)
and for 1970 they were 00530.31087 to 00530.50322 (19236 engines)

There were so many because they were shared between the 1300 GTJ and the 1300 Spider Junior in both LHD & RHD.

Promise I won't crossbid you for the eBay item listed above.

Chris

[pep105]

Heres another brochure from the same seller in case you miss out

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-1300-GT-Junior-1969-71-UK-Brochure-/180699146509?_trksid=m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DMRU-220%252BUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D180524780632%26ps%3D50

This one is the same as Chris has listed (smoothnose)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-1300-GT-Junior-1971-72-UK-Brochure-/170671116780?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D15%26pmod%3D170685991887%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3192493332216172694#ht_500wt_971

The model your looking at is rare and desirable (stepnose and 1750 dash). The series 3 (unofficially titled) smoothnose 1300 Junior made it here approx late 1970 and is also rare, similar interior 1750 dash and hupcaps as it's stepnose predecessor plus twin boosters. 1600 GT Junior arrived in 72 with 3 spoke steering wheel, headrests like its GTV bigger brother and 2 litre sombrero type centre caps.
I think the 1300 ended in 72 and 1600 in 74 and may not have been sold alongside each other here locally unlike Europe. Could be wrong though. We didn't get the later version as previously said

GT Juniors are fun and have their own appeal, due to the smaller capacity you tend to drive them harder and they're feisty .

If it looks good I say go for it  

Cheers

Pep

[pep105]

Should that motor have two valleys across the rocker cover for a crossover air intake to be a genuine engine?

As far as I know, this late one should have the barrel type filter with the standard rocker cover. Earlier models might have had the crossover filter as the 1300 GTJ was released in 1966.

Attached is a pic from a 1968 model Series 1 with the crossover filter set up

Cheers

Pep

[twistybits]

Good luck EZEE,
Also spotted this on ebay as a guide. However, this has been advertised for a while.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1968-Alfa-Romeo-GT-Junior-1300-Red-5sp-M-Coupe-/140597092214?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item20bc3d5f76

[EZEE]

thanks to everyone.....tomorrow is the big day. From the advice received here so far unless there is something obviously wrong I am going for it.

Will keep you all posted...

Emmanuel

[1750GTV]

This was my brothers late model 1300GTJ - before and after .....

Chris

[EZEE]

wow Chris, was he ok? looks like it was a while ago......

UPDATE: I think I secured the car today. Frank had a good look at it - he was happy enough, seems ok overall, far from perfect but solid, not entirely orginal either but a car I would be happy to own. A step nose in red that I could use every day so to speak!

So left a cash deposit with the dealer, shook hands and we all agreed the deal was done.

However turns out he had to "call the owner" and I can take possesion tomorrow. With luck it is all true (No offence but we are talking the proverbial "used car salesman" here, I can never really tell who is geniunely geniune!)

Once done I will take better pictures for everyone (and for my records)......

Cheers

Emmanuel

[pancho]

Hopefully it works out - if not, 20k will buy an ok example of a GT stepnose in many other states; it's always best not to rush and flights are cheap. Will be good to see better pics.

[1750GTV]

wow Chris, was he ok? looks like it was a while ago......

He was OK - just got a bit too overenthusiastic in a corner and lost control. The car flipped end over end and then rolled.
It was back in the mid-80s.
He now drives a VW Toureg.

Good luck with the purchase,
Chris

[Davidm1600]

Gosh Chris, your brother was one seriously lucky guy to have survived that aweful crash.  I guess when you see photos like that it makes you stop and realise just how quickly it can all be over.  Sad to see what looked like a nice condition GT Junior meet its maker but better that than your brother.

All the best with the purchase Ezee, my brother has a Giulia 1300 TI sedan, (basically the same engine), and I remember going for drives in that car in the past. I always enjoyed it.

[EZEE]

Hi Guys,

in case you wondered what has happened with the new Giulia GT 1300 after all the fuss I made when I was looking at buying it......I am in Perth for the week for a wedding so haven't seen it but I bought it in the end. Currently with Frank being looked over. Once I am back will post pix - again would like to thank all the positive help I received.

Cheers

Emmanuel

[EZEE]

Update: GT 1300 Junior.

FINALLY got to see the new addition today after being interstate for over a week. I took 2 new shots on the iPhone - let me know if anyone is interested in anymore. I wont drag this thread much longer unless I do any work on the car but could I tap into the brains trust again?

I have no history or information so would like to determine the year if possible. I have the as VIN # AR1293439 and the Engine # as AR00526A*95738. Engine is definitely not original but anyway of knowing from what year it is? Does the VIN # tell us when it was built? I have double checked the engine number as I thought I read somewhere there were no letters in the engine numbers (does that even make sense?) but it definitely is an "A" not a "4". A little knowledge can be dangerous so am aware this may be a silly question. Also is it ok to post these details once we own these cars?

Thanks again to all helped with information.

Cheers

Emmanuel

[Evan Bottcher]

I suggest you send the VIN and Engine # across to the Centro Documentazione at Alfa.

email address is: centrodocumentazione@alfaromeo.com

They'll tell you the exact build date, model, and original colour.  Ask about the engine, they didn't record engine numbers against chassis numbers but should be able to tell you what year the engine was built.

I don't know of any reason not to post the numbers here.

[EZEE]

Done - cheers Evan let's see what comes back.

EZ

[pancho]

If I recall Sydney at all, it's gone from the dealer on Parra Rd to just around the corner to the workshop on Old Canterbury rd?  I think the guy still has it advertised online too. How does she look internally and underneath ?