If only it was an Alfa.....

Started by pep105, June 26, 2012, 05:13:35 PM

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pep105

Current
'74 GT 1600 Junior  (Currently under restoration)
'84 Alfetta GCL Sedan
'02 Vespa ET4 150
'05 GT 3.2
Past
'82 Fiat 131 Superbrava Mk II
'82 Alfetta GTV 2.0
'88 75 Twinspark
'80 Alfetta Sedan
'02 147 Twinspark

Frank Musco


colcol

That was one of the first cars German engineering Peter Hannenburger fixed up when he took over Engineering at GMH, he replaced Pontiac Engineer George Roberts, they came with R.T.S. which stood for Roberts Theory Suspended, and the HZ came with lots of negative camber on the front suspension to stop the tyre falling over during hard cornering, just like Austrian Engineer DR. Rudolph Hruska did to the Alfasud  6 years earlier in 1971, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

pep105

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Peter Hanenberger was also involved in the development of the first VB Commodore, which was based on the Opel Rekord and at the time in the mid 70s, the Opel engineering mules would crack at the firewall due to large stresses endured as a result of the tough Aussie conditions, so in it's transformation to the Common Door the body was suitably strengthened. (Bit of useless trivia for you Colin  :)).

RTS (interesting definition Colin) transformed the dynamics of 70s Holdens, not to Alfetta level but hey......

He was Holden MD from 1999 - 2004 and was well liked as was told by my Holden colleagues, until the Americans came in 2005 and it all turned to shit.

Frank - You know what Im gonna ask don't you ? Want to go halvies ?  :) Make a good towcar or cruiser. All we need is a foam esky some salami, home made wine, a pack of Benson & Hedges and a picnic rug and boom it's 1980 all over again!
Current
'74 GT 1600 Junior  (Currently under restoration)
'84 Alfetta GCL Sedan
'02 Vespa ET4 150
'05 GT 3.2
Past
'82 Fiat 131 Superbrava Mk II
'82 Alfetta GTV 2.0
'88 75 Twinspark
'80 Alfetta Sedan
'02 147 Twinspark

Frank Musco

Yeah mate.. sweat!  So... we'll have to keep it at my joint cause ya got no room, no worries mate, I'll look after her   ;D

colcol

The family car at the time was a HQ, and i drove a HZ and the difference was night and day, i guess that why we all drive good handling Alfa Romeo's, sometimes when car company's appoint Engineers as Managers, they go off on their pet projects and send the company broke, but not in the case of DR. Hanenberger, when money men run car company's, the company usually makes money, but the cars are bland, [oh what a feeling], Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

aggie57

When I read the article I checked to make sure it was in fact an HZ and not the extremely anemic and very forgetable HJ.....

Back in good old NZ I had a job in the Xmas holidays ferrying Avis rental cars around the North Island.  The fleet one year was Toyota Corollas, Toyota Coronas, and HZ Kingswoods.  Suffice to say "relocation" became code for "race" and despite the RTS suspension the fastest cars both in outright speed and point to point were the Coronas.  The HZ with a 202 struggled to get past 90 (mph).  Can't recall what the Coronas would actually do....  ;D
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

Paul Gulliver

Quotecode for "race" and despite the RTS suspension the fastest cars both in outright speed and point to point were the Coronas

Geez Alister, 90mph in one of those cars on NZ roads in the late 70's. Did you get "danger money" as well.
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

aggie57

Quote from: Paul Gulliver on June 28, 2012, 10:21:15 AM
Quotecode for "race" and despite the RTS suspension the fastest cars both in outright speed and point to point were the Coronas

Geez Alister, 90mph in one of those cars on NZ roads in the late 70's. Did you get "danger money" as well.

No Gully - of course I am only repeating what I was told by others who worked there.  I always stuck to the speed limit...
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

L4OMEO

Of course in the late seventies the open-road speed limit in NZ was a brain-melting 80km/h. You do remember it was km/h not mph, don't you aggie57?   ;)
2002 156 GTA

aggie57

Quote from: L4OMEO on June 28, 2012, 05:30:20 PM
Of course in the late seventies the open-road speed limit in NZ was a brain-melting 80km/h. You do remember it was km/h not mph, don't you aggie57?   ;)

huh? ???!

Remember when the police starting booking people for going slower than the speed limit and holding up traffic? Seriously. 
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

colcol

Hey Aggie57, those quick Coronas must have been powered by the Japanese overhead cam motors, in that era in Australia the Aussie Coronas were [under] powered by the backfire 4 that was fitted to the Sunbird and 4 cylinder Commodores, that is a 1900cc, 202 6 cylinder with 2 cylinders lopped off, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

aggie57

Yes they were proper Corona's Colin.  None of that 2/3 of a crappy old straight six nonsense Australia had to suffer.  They were an Aussie special.
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

enzo1891

looks like i have to drag out the monaro from its hybination only been sleeping for the last 10 years