I have been playing with Alfa's for about 7 years now. Started with a "79 Alfetta. Rusty old thing, my son Jamey and i used it for motorkhanas and autocross/ hillclimbs. Drove it for 2 years in standard class, no mods and road tyres. did ok, got some plastic trophies, won 1st standard class in the victorian autocross super series both years. decided to go rallying... what a blast. You may not drive your Alfas off the black top but let me tell you, when set up properly they sure hold their own. Fitted v6 torsion bars, removed every thing that wasn't required and lightened everything else. 75 discs calipers wheels, konis, twin spark 1st 2,875:1 and 2nd 1.72:1, standard 3rd 1.35:1, 1.13:1 4th and a .946:1 5th with a 75 platinium lsd with 2 extra plates and a 4.3 final drive from a 1.8 75 and i have a weapon. weighs 1020 kgs ready to rally, 4th outright 1st rally, 1st under 2 litre and 1st novice 1st season, and that was with a bog standard engine( 10548 cams though)
Now i own 8 Alfas in various stages of decomposition. Still have the '79 Alfetta (but it is having a rebuild)
That leads me to why i joined this forum. I am building a GTV6 rally car. Figure it will probably go ok. Greg Carr won the Australian Rally Championship with a 2.5 GTV6 in 1987, but i am going to slot a 12 v 3.0 litre in mine. i have a '77 shell ready to cage and all the bits to bolt in, planning to have it ready to run in about June, do a couple of shake down rallies and get fair dinkum in the Alpine rally in December .
I ran into a couple of AROC club members at a CAMS shindig last month and they suggested that i join this forum ( and AROC, which i will do). I am currently a member of Pakenham Auto Club and have my Alfetta CH plated through them. Maybe someone could get me some info on AROC ( joining procedure and meeting details).
If anyone needs any bits for 116's, i have a lot and would be happy to help you out.
Looking forward to chatting with you guys
Here are a couple of pics of the Alfetta in action,
Those photo's are going to get Matt Francis all misty eyed
Greg
The next club meeting is this coming Wednesday (Dec 10) at Bell's Hotel, cnr Moray & Coventry Streets South Melbourne. Meeting starts around 8pm. Quite a few member get there early for a meal. This is our last meeting for the year and is a little more casual than usual.
Look forward to seeing you there and hearing more of your Alfetta projects. There will be a few others interested in your project.
Barry
The Greg Carr car is currently owned by a club member and is being restored to it's original spec and livery. Might be a good inspiration for your project.
Just got back from holiday- what a site to return to. A nice thread to read before i vent my frustration into another...
Barry, Thanks for the info, i will try and get there on Wednesday. I have been to Bells Hotel before, to a CCRMIT Meeting i think, won a trophy from one of their rallys, Think it was the George Derrick in Avoca. Got a good ppicture from that event.
Hi Greg,
It was good to meet you at the CAMS function. I love that last photo.....especially the look in the eyes of the Navigator (or 'ballast' as I believe they are know in rally circles!!)
Just out of curiosity, with that list of mods it would have to be a PRC car (I think i remember you telling me that anyway). What would your thoughts be on the advantages of running in PRC V's building it to meet HRA specs?
Cheers,
Phil.
Welcome Greg - not enough on rally Alfa's, particularly the GTV Alfetta's in the 70's - love the pics of these cars in the Evan Green books.
Phil, i built a prc over a historic mainly because i wanted to be able to stop when i wanted to. Pre 1986 PRC affords me so many more mods including being able to upgrade the front brakes. The unvented discs may be ok for the road, but after 200+ k's competitive up and down mountains i want the pedal to feel the same as when i started. i am running 90 discs with rb74 pads and they have never let me down. Also i have completly removed all the trim except dash ,mainly as a safety issue. the less there is to burn inside the car the happier i am. 2 kg of dry powder doesn't really put much out!
If you are into seeing eyes, here are some pics from the '05 Yakkerboo that tell a real story.
Hey sorry guys i didn't get to the meeting, finnished work too late to make it with all sanity intact. Work for myself doing split systems, and i never know just how every job will pan out. Can someone tell me how to go about joining up AROC please. Can i do it by mail? Thanks.
You can join the club by mail. Contact Membership Sec Anthony Sharp direct or head down to Phillip Island on Sunday for the Club sprint meeting.
If you can't make it to PI then come along to the Club BBQ, Jan 14. Bank of Yarra River near the Morell Street Bridge. Just keep an eye out for the Alfa banner and gathering of club members by the BBQ unit
Barry
Thanks Barry, I have sent a PM to A Sharp with some details. See you at the BBQ. Try to get the Alfetta back on the road by then, Take it for an outing.
As a rally man, this i find to be a bit devestating, and i reckon that a few of you will find it shattering too. Suraru have pulled out of wrc for 2009 citing the global downturn in sales.
We may find that motorsport changes a lot in the coming years. At least we still have grassroots motor sport to fall back on. Read more http://tinyurl.com/6bdh88 (http://tinyurl.com/6bdh88)
that is unbelievable :o
first Honda in F1 and Subaru in WRC......damn accountants!!
Phil
Not sure if we can blame the accountants and while they make the decisions about companies involvement in motor sport we might have to go back further to the investors and speculators and the greed factor of certain people on Wall Street.
Barry
Ciao Greg,
next week i will be taking delivery of a 1980 GTV which will probably require a new rear hatch door, do you have this part for sale ?
I rally raced in north-eastern Italy (Miki Biasion country) in the late seventies, I currently reside in Narre Warren South (Berwick Springs area) and would appreciate to chat with you over a few beers.
Kartone, i do not have an unallocated hatch at the moment. sorry. I would enjoy chatting about rally in italy over a beer. Will have to wait though as being in the air con industry it has gotten a bit hectic after last weeks weather. Haven't had any shed time for a week now. Sad about that.
AND... to top it off, Toyota have announced their withdrawal from the ARC for 2009. Where will it stop?
Is this the start of a slow death to motorsport ?
Redalfaracing,
use link below to my backyard in the 70s; enjoy.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KSJKchNQmtI
Quote from: redalfaracing on February 01, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
AND... to top it off, Toyota have announced their withdrawal from the ARC for 2009. Where will it stop?
Is this the start of a slow death to motorsport ?
It does not stop there. Porsche Cars Australia has just announced the Carrera Cup championship will not run in 2009!
Quote from: kartone on February 03, 2009, 09:16:05 PM
Redalfaracing,
use link below to my backyard in the 70s; enjoy.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KSJKchNQmtI
I lived one year in Milan and two years in Monza, roads like that looks familiar. It's great with roads where you can really give yourself and the car a workout, and you're still not breaking the speed limit. Not that the speed limit matters there anyway, more of a guidance.
Quote from: Phil Baskett on February 06, 2009, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: redalfaracing on February 01, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
AND... to top it off, Toyota have announced their withdrawal from the ARC for 2009. Where will it stop?
Is this the start of a slow death to motorsport ?
It does not stop there. Porsche Cars Australia has just announced the Carrera Cup championship will not run in 2009!
Yeah heard that at the CAMS meeting last night - complete Porsche support withdrawal. Wow, what or who ss next?
This is always the risk with heavy manufacturer support - Ford and Holden will be really looking hard at their V8 investment atm. I don't think it is sustainable.
I got the impression it was more a lack of competitors than lack of support from Porsche. The teams still have to buy the cars from Porsche, even if they are 'subsidised' somewhat. In fact I got the impression Porsche actually have very little to do with it, and that the whole series is contracted to another company. I've been wrong before though.
I'm very interested to see what happens with Porsche series overseas.
Reckon Toyota and Mitsubishi still want to get in on the V8s?
It was a lack of competitors, mainly due to lack of sponsorship $$ available. Dont forget that Porsche Cars Aust is also throwing it's support behind another Australian series, namely the GT3 Cup Challenge. I guess that the current owners of 997 cars will be looking to compete in something else, my guess it is going to be either the aforementioned GT3 series or the Aust GT Championship. If it is the GT3 guys, then it would be similar to the way they run the Carrera Cup in NZ, a class for current (997) and a class for the older (!) cars, which in theory is probably more sustainable when 90% of the sponsorship money in aust is tipped into the supertaxis.
The guy I feel sorry for in this situation is Glenn Ridge and his QMedia company, they have only recently taken the rights to run the Aust Carrera Cup (and the Mini's too from memory).