GTV project finally started!

Paul Gulliver · April 29, 2009, 11:05:21 PM

MD,

Thanks for the info. Checked on the net , it appears you can but it in a 250 G aerosol or 4 litres in bulk. As you mentioned the 250 aerosol maybe a good way of getting to the non daylight applications, and as an interim mesure allow the Alfetta & I to grow old together.

Cheers

Gully

alfagtv152 · April 30, 2009, 01:58:34 PM

Hi Scott,
Good to see another Alfetta getting restored to be driven.I know you said you were familiar with the rust areas but I just wanted to mention the shock I had with mine,ater stripping the outside rear to bare metal I was told to check inside the rear at the parcel shelf area and found it to be rotten as a chop where the drains are supposed to be!!.
Cheers
Andrew

scuzzyGTV · May 01, 2009, 04:05:08 PM

latest news:

well i went to chat with my bodyworks mate today (i'm off sick & this is about the best time to catch him) and he is more than happy to do the work required that i cant. he's got alfa experience, very telling by a nice looking 33 waiting to be collected, but is extremely busy for the next couple of months. he'll come over to my place and check out the car before he starts to determine if we'll go ahead with it. so it looks like i'll have to do as much work as i can and wait until i get back from europe in early august for body to be fixed and painted. looks like i'll need some of that tectyl!

in other news i'm still considering the supercharger route with this motor, thanks largely to david m's suggestion of reading mike's twin charge project on alfabb. again i'll be doing most of the removal and cleaning myself then off to another karting friends servo to be rebuilt and reinstalled.

so far the rust hasnt been too obvious, however if anyone has any more tips on where to watch out for it please do let me know.

here's some more pics.

scott.

ps. did i mention i have really bad arachnophobia?

Davidm1600 · May 01, 2009, 04:52:35 PM

Hi Scott

Ah I thought I recognised the car and I do remember it well as well as your Dad's red 1750 GTV, though havn't see you guys or cars around for some time. The CMI hillclimb sticker, front spoiler and sunroof a dead giveaway. I have seen far worse rust on a Alfetta GTV of that vintage and to be truthful these cars a starting to become a little thin on the ground so if you can restore it so much the better.

Re the Supercharger route. There is a guy who has mostly posted on the AlfaBB but has recently posted here on the forum. Mike Barrenger. He has both a silver '76 GT which he is converting to have both Super and Turbo charging with a desired output of around 400 BHP !! Pretty awesome stuff for an Alfetta. Mike is an engineer and in conversation with him, and reading his postings, it might be helpful to you if you got in touch with him. He lives in Hobart. He also has a red Alfetta race car on Vic CH plates. He only recently returned to live here from Melbourne.

The other person you might wish to get in touch with is Geoff Storr as he has quite a few Alfettas including his Targa and road GTV cars. He may have some spare parts helpful to you.

From the picture of the damaged front guard, from my experience that doesnt look too bad and should be relatively straight forward for your panel beating guy to fix. BTW, can you PM me if you dont wish to give out such details but I too need such a person to work on my project cars, (giulia super and 1750 GTV). Cheers Dave

scuzzyGTV · May 01, 2009, 07:30:23 PM

david, i didnt think it would take you long to work out who i am. last time i used the car was late 2006, then moves to ukfor a year and since have ben saving for the resto. i completely forgot about geoff storr's parts bin, i'll have to try and get back to some club outings soon and start asking a lot of questions.

the guy i'll get to do my bodyworks is mark cooper at bowen bodyworks, howard rd derwent park. nice bloke and has been doing it for 30+ years.

dad has been fairly busy with his business in the last couple of years, but is finally getting back into it also (think thats my influence), so hopefully his 1750 will be up to standard soon.

i'm not wanting as much power as mike, i think 250 should be ample for my license's sake!

hope to get a bit more work done over the weekend, but targa calls on sunday and i dont like the weather forcast for tomorrow!

scott.

scuzzyGTV · May 09, 2009, 10:18:05 PM

went up to agfest today, first time, was excellent! could have pent a fortune on some great toys. whilst there i happened apon a stall that was selling carpets. they had this nice black waterproof auto carpet roll with underlay already attached for $66! i know it may be premature but was an exciting momnet all the same. i'll post a pic when i get a moment. now just need to strip, fix and paint before i can put in the new carpet.

oh well at least i'm looking to the future.

scuzzyGTV · May 23, 2009, 09:46:48 PM

after a little bit more work, i've come across some questions that you guys might be able to help me with.

firstly does anyone know the easiest way to remove a seized piston from the brake caliper, and

if i decide not to put the sound proofing insulation back in, what effect does that have on noise and heat transfer?

progress at the moment is still a bit slower than i'd like, but the interior is out, all bolted panels are off and the engine will be taken out soon.

i'll try and upload some more pics soon.

thanks in advance

scott.

MD · May 24, 2009, 07:58:19 AM

Seized piston

If indeed it is seized, there is a 50/50chance that it has pitted and corroded piston walls which wont seal after you have taken it apart anyhow. This usually means resleeving it and extra bucks. The original calipers are readily available second hand cheaply. If you cannot locate one, send me a PM and I will mail you one gratis.

Of course it is the perfect excuse to upgrade to ventilated front rotors and alloy calipers ...(recommended)

Insulation

Yes you would expect more transfer of radiant heat from the exhaust system and to a lesser extent via the firewall if the insulation is removed. To offset this you could do a couple of things :-

1 Fully line the prop. tunnel with an insulation aluminium sheeting.
2 Just install the insulation shielding above any silencers/resonators and insulation wrap the rest of the exhaust tubing. DO NOT WRAP THE CAST IRON MANIFOLDS.-they will crack.

Last time I tried to buy the insulation sheeting, it was available from Supercheap and Repco. It was considerably cheaper at Repco.

I hope that give you some food for thought.

k76 · May 25, 2009, 04:26:41 PM

How seized is the piston? I got mine out eventually by clamping one piston and hitting the port with compressed air. Watch your fingers as it comes out with a big bang!

scuzzyGTV · May 27, 2009, 09:12:40 PM

so doing a bit more work tonight, removing more of the interior, plus trying to get the pistons out of the calipers (will use your advise on this k76), so come along to a very stubborn gear knob. so pull out the wd40, let it loosen up the rubber, then pull. still nothing happens. pull a little harder and the elation as it comes off is soon surpassed by the realisation that ive just fractured the windscreen!
dont i feel like a proper d**khead tonight.
does anyone know if they are readily available for an '80 gtv with rubber seals and if so a rough cost? also how o remove them properly?
i'll finish the project off first before getting a new one installed, as i dont feel like a repeat.
aside from that its going well, not a lot of rust found so far

and generally coming apart well. althouhg i am having a bit of trouble with the centre console, cant work it out, i believe there are many different types so i've got a pic for reference.
enjoy the pics (the rusty colour stuff on the inside is actually dirt)!
scott.

scuzzyGTV · May 27, 2009, 09:14:44 PM

some more...

scuzzyGTV · May 27, 2009, 09:16:49 PM

finally the culprits & aftermath

MD · May 28, 2009, 07:25:06 AM

As the saying goes...sheit happens. Screens should be readily available. Only recently installed an Alfetta laminated screen complete with a built radio antenna for $225. Sometime reinstalling old screens with old rubbers cracks the screen in the process anyway so just think of it as one more restoration item charge. (Might ease the pain)

scuzzyGTV · May 28, 2009, 01:05:22 PM

given how easily it broke, i'm actually a bit glad i'll be changing it, safety first.
that price is pretty reasonable, thought it'd be around double that.
thanks
scott.

scuzzyGTV · June 18, 2009, 02:01:53 PM

hi all,

it's been a while, with planning the honeymoon trip etc etc, not a lot has been done to the alfa

, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

today i took delivery of a very nice new Haynes workshop manual! it is very exciting for me (one of my more nerd orientated moments) to finally have something to work from other than a shortening memory.

so work will recommence once we get back in mid august and from there we should hopefully have some quicker progress.

catch you all later.

scott.